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Redpill me on these campaign box sets, dakka. Do they contain all options that normal plastic kits do or not? If not, they they have unique sprues? Because the only time I can think of limited option version of plastic kits is the snap fit models like in the Dark Vengeance case.

So if these units are indistinguishable from regular box sets, then the Tyranid faction alone would amount to £97, never mind the Blood Angels. Shield of Baal: Deathstorm costs £75...

If its like Stormclaw they'll be standard unit sprues. Only special thing will be the Broodlord and captain.

From what I read from what others have said, they are the exact sprues you would buy individually. Sanctus reach had the exact same sprues as their individual counter parts except for the unique HQ unit, but the rest is the same, so Deathstorm should be the same.

I said should because I could be wrong since I don't know for sure and going by what I read.

Did anyone total up the individual unit costs in Sanctus Reach? How big were the savings?

All I'm saying is that if it is true, this is a really really really good deal that makes the DV set pale in comparison, since those are monopose, snapfit miniatures with no other built options.

Someone did in another thread, I think you're getting over 3 times as much stuff as you'd normally get for $75.

I would think the biggest downer is the fact that the Blood Angels come with Terminators, that are pretty crap.

WayneTheGame wrote:
I would think the biggest downer is the fact that the Blood Angels come with Terminators, that are pretty crap.

Agreed. Would have loved to have it be Vanguard Vets or Sanguinary Guard.

WayneTheGame wrote:
I would think the biggest downer is the fact that the Blood Angels come with Terminators, that are pretty crap.

Yeah, they've been hawking terminators with a lot of new releases, it seems they can't sell enough of them and have a surplus so they've been plugged in as bonus items.

Of course, if they simply spent money researching how to better balance the game then terminators might be a more popular purchase. But that's just me.

As for Shield of Baal, it's a good value product, just like Stormclaw. I have a feeling these box sets will continue to be good deals, and luckily they sell online (via eBay) after they sell out via GW for about the same price.

It's definitely a good deal but you don't exactly get the most powerful models with it. The only thing competitive on the SW side of stormclaw was the grey hunters. No matter how I kit or use my terminators they're always just wasted points I wish I would have spent elsewhere. They were fun to paint but they sit on the shelf collecting dust now.

I think its like 380$ Canadian separately, and 150$ Canadian for the set so massive savings even if you only want one side.

It's all junk though. Genestealers are junk, broodlords are junk, warriors are junk, terminators are junk, death company are junk.

The death company dread is alright, the carnifex is good.

The unique models are alright looking but not anything really special.

Even still if you just want a carnifex, and a deadnaught that would regularly be 120$ Canadian. Throwing down 30 for the rest is probably worth it. Consider it a risky investment as maybe one day games workshop will balance terminators, genestealers, or warriors to be good.

DC Dread can be made into a Furioso or Librarian Furioso which is good. DC Marines aren't bad if you play them right. There is no getting around Tactical Terminators being garbage though.

Looks a pretty good deal for £75, especially seeing as the other new thing on the website is 13 dwarves and a hobbit for £118!

Oh and while this probably wont matter to most people it does come with a set of the rules in paperback. If your somebody who doesn't own the 7th ed rules yet, and wants even just a couple of the models then this set is frickin amazing.

 coblen wrote:
I think its like 380$ Canadian separately, and 150$ Canadian for the set so massive savings even if you only want one side.

It's all junk though. Genestealers are junk, broodlords are junk, warriors are junk, terminators are junk, death company are junk.

The death company dread is alright, the carnifex is good.

The unique models are alright looking but not anything really special.

Even still if you just want a carnifex, and a deadnaught that would regularly be 120$ Canadian. Throwing down 30 for the rest is probably worth it. Consider it a risky investment as maybe one day games workshop will balance terminators, genestealers, or warriors to be good.

Amending this slightly...

The Broodlord comes with his own (as yet unseen) rules and so might not be junk.

Warriors, while not stellar on their own, are used to unlock Living Artillery Nodes (and other formations if you feel so inclined).

Genestealers are a bit harder to justify, but on the right table they are wonderful so they are a much more personal unit.

For a Tyranid player, it's an awesome deal.

Big saving. But the Termies suck as already said.
I guess it will be limited edition which will end soon.

I have to say ranged termies dont suck like they did in 3rd, 4th and 5th editions.

 Sir Arun wrote:
I have to say ranged termies dont suck like they did in 3rd, 4th and 5th editions.

Please have a look at GK Termies.
They are superior to normal Termies in several ways.

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Sir Arun wrote:
I have to say ranged termies dont suck like they did in 3rd, 4th and 5th editions.

Please have a look at GK Termies.
They are superior to normal Termies in several ways.

Locked in close combat with a squad of regular termies, they will lose unless all of them are equipped with hammers, in which case not only are they costlier, but have roughly the same chance of winning.

 Sir Arun wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

 Sir Arun wrote:
I have to say ranged termies dont suck like they did in 3rd, 4th and 5th editions.

Please have a look at GK Termies.
They are superior to normal Termies in several ways.

Locked in close combat with a squad of regular termies, they will lose unless all of them are equipped with hammers, in which case not only are they costlier, but have roughly the same chance of winning.

You forgot that GK Termies are psykers and can cast hammerhead.
Being psykers is big these days.

Wounding them on 2+ wont change much if the AP is still 3. And in the case of hammers, S8 or S10 both wound on a 2+

The only question with this set is how many I'm going to buy, not if I'm going to pick it up :|

I love Blood Angels, I love Tyranids, and I don't own any models of either faction to speak of other than Space Hulk (of which, between versions, I own something like 7).

Does anyone think there's a point to buying more than 2 boxes, for gaming/army purposes?

Think GW has learned/is learning their lesson about selling cheaper? Or is this their way of giving discounts in all but name?

I preordered my own box the night they were up on the website!
Mainly I'm getting it for the rule book, captain, DC, and dread. Everything else I can sell to make back the money I spent and REALLY save!

A rule book by it self is what, $50? I mean, damn, this is a good deal.

I don't play either army, but this box looks awesome, and for what you pay, it's a good deal. Plus that way I'll have a mini 7th manual, which I've been lacking.

Well played, GW. If they keep up the sweet new releases, I'll be totally broke in no time.

 coblen wrote:
I think its like 380$ Canadian separately, and 150$ Canadian for the set so massive savings even if you only want one side.

It's all junk though. Genestealers are junk, broodlords are junk, warriors are junk, terminators are junk, death company are junk.

The death company dread is alright, the carnifex is good.

The unique models are alright looking but not anything really special.

Even still if you just want a carnifex, and a deadnaught that would regularly be 120$ Canadian. Throwing down 30 for the rest is probably worth it. Consider it a risky investment as maybe one day games workshop will balance terminators, genestealers, or warriors to be good.

But remember, that the DC Dread can be made a Furioso, which is currently one of the best things in the dex atm.
And the Death Company can always be built as Assault Marines, which you can't live without when playing with BA.

And the new dex is about to drop, they might even improve DC into playable.

Have this on pre-order, Mrs L. wants the Blood Angels to paint in a very cruel shade of pink, mind you they are marines, they have it coming.

I've ended up adopting the Tyranids, last time I used bugs was 1st edition so thats a bit of an adventure but looking forwards to painting them.

Seems a reasonably priced way into the game, not fussed on DV as neither army in it interests me, these boxes are a nice idea and guessing sort of an answer to what mantic does - i.e. use sprues they already have (so no real cost), a small format book (which they already have, just a new cover) and sling them in a box.

A way of having discounts without it being obvious. the only thing thats missing is the sticker on the front with "contains £xxx of miniatures!!!!".

Long may such things continue, not owned 40k since 5th, this is getting me back into it

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
There is no getting around Tactical Terminators being garbage though.

Until the new codex/dataslate comes out that lets us paint them black and field them as DC Terminators !!

 adamsouza wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
There is no getting around Tactical Terminators being garbage though.

Until the new codex/dataslate comes out that lets us paint them black and field them as DC Terminators !!

Here is hoping. I am going to pick up a few boxes of the new Blood Angels tacticals to go with my Deathstorm marines.

 coblen wrote:
I think its like 380$ Canadian separately, and 150$ Canadian for the set so massive savings even if you only want one side.

It's all junk though. Genestealers are junk, broodlords are junk, warriors are junk, terminators are junk, death company are junk.

The death company dread is alright, the carnifex is good.

The unique models are alright looking but not anything really special.

Even still if you just want a carnifex, and a deadnaught that would regularly be 120$ Canadian. Throwing down 30 for the rest is probably worth it. Consider it a risky investment as maybe one day games workshop will balance terminators, genestealers, or warriors to be good.

It's slightly more complicated because most FLGS will discount carnifex and dreadnaught, so you can have those for about $100 or less. Most local stores wont be discounting the box, or not much, because all their allocated stock is presold or close to it.

But, the rulebook is worth something too, whether you want to sell it or give it away to someone starting up, and the junk models, as you say, are still nice models with useful bits, and you never know what the new codex (or the formation) may offer.

I do agree with your conclusion -- there is no way this is anything other than good deal.