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The minis look pretty tiny but considering that Orks are often the same size (or larger) as Space Marines, Gretchin seem to be regular human sized.
Being bred by Orks makes them kinda scary by default... Would an Gretchin struggle to take down a regular human?

Like a meter tall.

 tommse wrote:
considering that Orks are often the same size (or larger) as Space Marines

An average ork boy is about the same height as a normal human.

"On his own, a single Gretchin poses little threat to a human-sized adversary." Quote from wiki.

About three-four feet is my guess. Four being the highest.

Gretchin are about the size of human 10-year-olds - and about as physically adept, if a bit smarter.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Gretchin are about the size of human 10-year-olds - and about as physically adept, if a bit smarter.

No I'd say they're about the same intelligence wise

Gretchin are 4 feet tall (bloody Americans and there feet) Grots are supposed to be a bit scrawny and smaller then Gretchin so they are probably 2 feet. Orks start off like 6 feet but grow rapidly to 7 to 8 feet! If they stay alive and don't end up dead then they will get to 10 feet (this is like warboss status)

Uh, zombie? Grot is the Orkish word for Gretchin.

Great White - I'd agree, but Grots are smarter than Orks and have the same Instinctive Knowledge buff.

Regular ork boyz are the same hight as a human. But 2 times wider. If the ork stood straight, he'd be as tall as a space marine but they generally don't.

Grot's around 2 times smaller than a human. I've got a photo of lobbas and a runtherd + a couple of grots in my gallery. Can compare the size.


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 Furyou Miko wrote:
Uh, zombie? Grot is the Orkish word for Gretchin.

I think he's talking about snotlings. Snotlings are even smaller than grots, yep.

Heh, yes, and come on swarm bases when they're fieldable. I have one on the shelf next ot my desk with hand weapon and shield. The leader has a helmet!

The 3rd edition ork codex has an illustration of some orkoid subtypes on page 33. It includes a grid and a size reference in metres. According to that image, the grot is taller than 1 metre even in it's hunched pose but probably quite a bit less than 1.5 metres even if it stood up as straight as possible.

Waaargh: the Orks has an illustration of 'the Ork Races', although without any measurements. The gretchin is about two-thirds the height of the ork. Since almost every ork codex describes them as 'about the height of a man' (although they would be taller if they stood upright, the illustrations always show them in natural poses) we can say that the grot is probably somewhere around 1.2 metres tall. He's standing fairly upright for an orkoid though, while the ork is in the usual hunched posture.

Rogue Trader: The Koronus Bestiary says that orks are 6-7 feet tall (1.8 to 2.1 metres) and gretchin are 'less than half' that height. That would mean that gretchin are about 1 metre tall at most.

Overall, I'd say the evidence points to a typical gretchin being about 1 metre tall in their natural pose. Standing straight, as tall as possible, they might be about 20-30% taller.

They are slender compared to orks, but fairly broad and muscular compared to humans. Their height would be consistent with a human child between the ages of seven and ten, but I'd guess that they would be quite a bit stronger and possibly a little more dextrous.

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Their height would be consistent with a human child between the ages of seven and ten, but I'd guess that they would be quite a bit stronger and possibly a little more dextrous.

And a tiny bit more bloodthirsty.

 koooaei wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Their height would be consistent with a human child between the ages of seven and ten, but I'd guess that they would be quite a bit stronger and possibly a little more dextrous.

And a tiny bit more bloodthirsty.

Ah, I see you don't know many eight-year-olds...

 Furyou Miko wrote:

 koooaei wrote:

 Perfect Organism wrote:
Their height would be consistent with a human child between the ages of seven and ten, but I'd guess that they would be quite a bit stronger and possibly a little more dextrous.

And a tiny bit more bloodthirsty.

Ah, I see you don't know many eight-year-olds...

If i did it'd be a bit suspicious.

Ork VS Silverback Gorialla, one V one, no weapons allowed.

 Ratius wrote:
Ork VS Silverback Gorialla, one V one, no weapons allowed.

Ork vs Gorilla, one V one on rust, 360 quick scopes only

 Ratius wrote:
Ork VS Silverback Gorilla, one V one, no weapons allowed.

Orks are noted to be stronger than humans, sure... but gorillas are a lot stronger than humans. Our relatives usually are, pound for pound. They lack some of the fine muscle control we need for using tools efficiently, but in return can put in a tremendous amount of strength when needed. And they're faster than us.

Orks are tool users and not very fast. I'd guess the ork would have to be pretty big to stand a real chance - a Nob at least.

 Ratius wrote:
Ork VS Silverback Gorialla, one V one, no weapons allowed.

Orks can survive having their heads split open.

Gorillas can't.

They are like little hobitses in size. also, the ork would beat the s out of the silverback. Spetulh, look at a gorilla, bigger and bulkier than a human, then compare the models/fluff of orks to humans, they would dwarf a gorilla, and they would be stronger and more ferocious, with better fangs and claws.

 CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
... look at a gorilla, bigger and bulkier than a human, then compare the models/fluff of orks to humans, they would dwarf a gorilla...

The fluff is fairly consistent that a typical ork is around the height of a man and twice the mass. That's about the same as a mature male gorilla.

Orkoids don't seem to be that much stronger than humans of equivalent mass. Guardsmen can face orks in close combat and win, even though the orks are much harder to kill and more aggressive. In the one specific incidence I can think of where an ork used it's bare hands on a human, an unusually large specimen ('three metres tall and almost as wide') failed to cause fatal injury to Major Rawne despite bear-hugging him and punching him several times.

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
... look at a gorilla, bigger and bulkier than a human, then compare the models/fluff of orks to humans, they would dwarf a gorilla...

The fluff is fairly consistent that a typical ork is around the height of a man and twice the mass. That's about the same as a mature male gorilla.

Orkoids don't seem to be that much stronger than humans of equivalent mass. Guardsmen can face orks in close combat and win, even though the orks are much harder to kill and more aggressive. In the one specific incidence I can think of where an ork used it's bare hands on a human, an unusually large specimen ('three metres tall and almost as wide') failed to cause fatal injury to Major Rawne despite bear-hugging him and punching him several times.

Source?

If it is an IG novel, I suspect it was due to the Ork's inability to penetrate the plot armour of the guardsman.

If a 3 meter ork bear hugs you, you'll be red paste.

 Ashiraya wrote:
Source?

Gaunt's Ghosts: Ghostmaker.

 Ashiraya wrote:
If a 3 meter ork bear hugs you, you'll be red paste.

Based on what?

A three metre ork might be around seven to ten times the mass of a human (double or triple human mass for a 2 metre ork, increase by 50% three times for scaling up).

If an ork has a human equivalent strength-to-weight ratio, that's like a large adult man (say 100 kg) crushing a beagle. The dog is going to die, but it's not going to be reduced to chunky salsa instantly. Even with gorilla equivalent strength, it's only like a man crushing a chihuahua. I don't think you are likely to get an animal actually being squeezed into a wet pulpy mess until you get to man vs. hamster ratios, which would require something like a twenty ton gorilla to do the same to a human.

A three meter tall Ork is probably a Warboss. Warbosses tend to be stronger than Space Marines, which can literally pulp a man's face by punching it and lift several tons.

So yeah, I'd certainly say a three meter tall Ork would probably dismember a human by holding onto them.

 Great White wrote:

 Ratius wrote:
Ork VS Silverback Gorialla, one V one, no weapons allowed.

Ork vs Gorilla, one V one on rust, 360 quick scopes only

360 quickscopes? Thats too easy.
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