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2014/12/26 02:25:44
Subject: 3d Printers
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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Guys I'm a bit worried about gamesworkshop and its future in relation to 3d printers. My bro got one (because hell apparently directly gives him money) and wanted to print some models. I find this heretical and was wondering your guys opinion.
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2014/12/26 02:35:52
Subject: 3d Printers
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2014/12/26 02:37:44
Subject: 3d Printers
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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I'm sure 3d printers will kill miniature companies the same way that recordable video tapes and recordable audio cassette tapes killed the movie and music industries back in the 70's and 80's... that is... they won't.
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2014/12/26 03:24:08
Subject: 3d Printers
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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That's Classic Ailaros! 
I don't think they do at all....I feel this is an issue brought up by people who don't really understand 3D printers, which is fine. I don't understand how lots of stuff works. Anyway, 3D printers are just tools. One needs to use software to develop a 3D model for the printer to make, and for the model created by the printer to be a resolution of any quality, it has to be a really expensive one. In other words, 3D printers only put big businesses in trouble if everybody has tons of money to spend on an industrial-grade printer and is a very talented graphical artist.
My school has free 3D printers available, but the Mechanical Engineering Majors that use them often make fairly simple stuff that tends to fall apart because the resolution is poor and the plastic is cheap.
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"We are the Red Sorcerers of Prospero, damned in the eyes of our fellows, and this is to be how our story ends, in betrayal and bloodshed. No...you may find it nobler to suffer your fate, but I will take arms against it." -Ahzek Ahriman
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2014/12/26 03:41:19
Subject: 3d Printers
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Fixture of Dakka
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GW is not even worried about 3d printers. So says the CEO, the head of the company.
Also why is it so heretical? It just goes to show you about GW practices. Is GW practices wrong? What they do to other companies, I guess yes, but having high prices? No. They can charge what ever you want.
Does that make it right what your brother is doing? No it doesn't. Then again it shows you what people do because the prices are too high.
Just like how we had video tapes and DVDs now, and CDs and mp3s now, the music and movie industry is not out of business. If anything they have changed so they make it worth it for you to buy movies and music. Hell people were getting music for free for the longest time but some how Apple made people buy music.
The movie industry gives us bonuses for buying a DVD/Blue ray either by deleted scenes and extra content.
So it can be done, GW just needs to figure out what to do. Once it becomes cheaper to print your own minis with the same quality then GW needs to worry. Right now. They just need to worry about why they are loosing sales left right and center right now. 3D printing is the least of their worries right now.
Maybe one way for GW to cut down on 3d printing is do what PP does and give cards in the boxes and you will need them to play officially". No official cards no play. No downloaded cards. No printed cards, but only GW cards that come with the minis will be acceptable. While this will not stop people playing at home or clubs, there are people who will not play against people with "official" cards just like people who say you don't have a legal codex and rules will not play you.
GW will have to make it worth it for people to buy from them and not other means. Will they do it? Who knows, they are starting to change by giving free rules for 40K and The Hobbit. (maybe to little to late for The Hobbit, but it shows GW is changing now.) Change takes time, it will not happen over nite, but we are in for interesting times ahead now.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/12/26 03:41:38
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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2014/12/26 03:42:46
Subject: Re:3d Printers
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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Oh I know they won't as its like saying, "hey let me pirate models for the low price of $1000" the thing is no one will afford it, but I'm also looking towards as 3d printers could help GW make more product for less cost. Not just bad I also looking for good.
PS: Its heretical in the same way being mutant is heretical, it inst pure.
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[Khorne Daemonkin Warband] 4/4/0 |
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2014/12/26 03:46:31
Subject: Re:3d Printers
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Elite Tyranid Warrior
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dragoonmaster101 wrote:Oh I know they won't as its like saying, "hey let me pirate models for the low price of $1000" the thing is no one will afford it, but I'm also looking towards as 3d printers could help GW make more product for less cost. Not just bad I also looking for good.
I mean, isn't that the cost of an army nowadays?
Well not entirely, but GW miniatures are expensive and have few uses beside tabletop gaming. A 3D printer is more expensive but with more uses AND can make tabletop gaming miniatures.
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3500 Imperium army   
1250 Nidzilla 
1000 Chaos army  
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2014/12/26 03:53:49
Subject: Re:3d Printers
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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Ye, but some (most) people only get one army for 300 bucks if you shop smart and depends on army. A 3d printer requires tons of reloads of plastic. Ran out once already... And what other uses, but table top do the figures have?
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2014/12/26 13:08:27
Subject: 3d Printers
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Deadly Dark Eldar Warrior
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In response to the GW CEO; I concur that there is likely nothing to worry about in the short term (< 5 years), but in the longer term they may become ubiquitous (due to low cost) at which point you've got a problem.
If nothing else, it appears to me to be somewhat shortsighted to be completely dismissive of it. Surely there are potential revenue streams to pursue - maybe there is opportunity to sell plans for add-on components such as jump packs and storm shields?
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2014/12/26 13:18:59
Subject: Re:3d Printers
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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dragoonmaster101 wrote:Oh I know they won't as its like saying, "hey let me pirate models for the low price of $1000" the thing is no one will afford it, but I'm also looking towards as 3d printers could help GW make more product for less cost. Not just bad I also looking for good.
PS: Its heretical in the same way being mutant is heretical, it inst pure.
3D printing is good for producing new designs more quickly, but I imagine injection moulding will remain cheaper for mass production of thousands of units at least for the foreseeable future.
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