[1750] - Crimson Fists

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**Tyranrhraxus**

I've been playing my 1st army, CSM, for the last few years and I love it. But over time I've acquired some loyalist Space Marine miniatures and I've been thinking of starting a 2nd army. At first I wasn't sure which chapter to pick but I've settled for Crimson Fists.

Here's the list I've come up with:

Spoiler:

It looks cool on paper but C&C is welcome before I commit to this army!

**blood_knight**

From a fluff standpoint. i would get some fists in there. heh, but thats just me, but also because you will run into issues with mechs dispite the firepower.

other then that, i always see razors kitted with Las/Plas. same points, more shots.

**phoenix darkus**

Depending on what you're trying to achieve with this list, I would go full pod.

Pedro can create arguably the best pod list out there with a crazy amount of ObSec units.

Also, it's almost criminal to not have devastators when you're running Fist CT.

Things I would look into:

-Honour Guards, Standard of the Emperor Ascendant, pod, throw Pedro in that squad and you have a nice assault unit and protection for Pedro

- 5-man tactical squad with combi and special weapons in pods

- 5-man devastators with 4 lascannons or 4 Flakk launchers (only time I would ever run the Flakks thanks to tank-hunter) you can still give them a pod that you can drop empty

Even at 1750 you could feasably have 12-14 ObSec units thanks to Sternguard, tacticals and their pods, making it extremely difficult to get rid of all of them for your opponent.

Cheers.

**Cauthon**

Are you sure you want melta guns on sternguard? Combi melta seems the way to go to me. A little melta actaion plus your not giving up your special ammunition. If you had 6 combi meltas I cant see you wishing for more..