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This is supposed to be a taac list focussed on speed and fire power. I'm using it for a campaign at my store so I'd like it to be competitive but it doesn't have to be tournament winner quality

HQ: 280pts
Farseer: jetbike, singing spear, mantle
Farseer: jetbike, singing spear

ELITES: 355pts
5x wraithguard: d-scythes
wave serpent: tl scatter laser, shuriken cannon, holofields

TROOPS: 311pts
3x windrider jetbikes: shuriken cannon
10x guardians: shuriken cannon
wave serpent: tl scatter laser, shuriken cannon, holofields

FAST ATTACK: 304pts
8x warp spiders
8x warp spiders

Heavy Support: 500pts
VW Support Battery: shadowweavers
2x warwalkers: 2x (starcannon and scatter laser)
Wraithknight: Suncannon, scattter laser

total: 1750

I was going to have the farseers join eachother as a unit giving both of them shrouded and stealth. Then they would each take guide and prescience and a roll on telepathy to give most of my army re-rolls to hit.

What do you think? I've never used shadow weavers before are they any good? I'll probably be guiding them so they can snipe at back armor and such

From what I understand Mantle of the Laughing God removes your Independent Character special rule, so you cant have that model in a unit, it needs to be by itself.

I would take off the 2nd farseer, and instead give yourself a warlock council with 2 warlocks. Put one Warlock with the Support Weapon battery, and another with the Jetbikes.

the Warlock with the Support Battery gives a 2+ Jinking T7 Unit which is hilarious.

Id probably give the War Walkers Bright Lances instead of starcannons as your long range high str shooting is bad.

Mantle does strip IC, but I think because the other farseer still has it, it can legally join the mantleseers "unit" even though that wasn't how it was intended to be used

Would you call it cheesy? Also I find warlocks always let me down

On the contrary it's refreshing to see an eldar comp list that isn't just minimum avenger squads in serpents being escorted by as many wraithknights as can be fit in the points lol...

I really don't like giving Wraitguard D-sythes. I much prefer the wraith cannons, but it really depends on witch army you are going against. Personally, thats just my opinion though

Pathfinder Shaun wrote:
On the contrary it's refreshing to see an eldar comp list that isn't just minimum avenger squads in serpents being escorted by as many wraithknights as can be fit in the points lol...

Aha thanks! I was talking specifically about pairing the farseers when one has the mantle lol

I find wraithcannons aren't reliable enough without spiritmark. They usually let me down pretty good. Although that's just because I have bad luck. I like the d-scythes in the serpent paired with the guardians in a serpent because I pop them out in the same turn and wipe or cripple two key units which often leads to a victory for me. The scythes reliably kill anything without a storm shield

I like it! pretty solid, maybe get some more bright lances in there, or drop the d-scythes, you got 2 farseers to give you a reroll to hit on those wraithguard. Also I don't like guardians, prefer avengers but that's just my personal preference. You can get 8 avengers for the price of 10 guardians + shuriken cannon witch is better I think.
Also I like giving a warlock to my jetbikes just for the shrouded, same with the support batteries.

Pathfinder Shaun wrote:
Mantle does strip IC, but I think because the other farseer still has it, it can legally join the mantleseers "unit" even though that wasn't how it was intended to be used

no that isnt correct. If you bring a farseer with mantle to a tournament and put it with something your cheating.

 Smitty0305 wrote:

Pathfinder Shaun wrote:
Mantle does strip IC, but I think because the other farseer still has it, it can legally join the mantleseers "unit" even though that wasn't how it was intended to be used

no that isnt correct. If you bring a farseer with mantle to a tournament and put it with something your cheating.

Mantle of the Laughing God; The bearer loses the Independent Character special rule but has the Hit & Run, Shrouded and Stealth special rules. In addition the bearer can reroll failed cover saves.

Nowhere in there does it mention disallowing another IC to join him. So please explain how that is cheating. As I said it's not the intention of the relic, but it's still legal.

Pathfinder Shaun wrote:

 Smitty0305 wrote:

Pathfinder Shaun wrote:
Mantle does strip IC, but I think because the other farseer still has it, it can legally join the mantleseers "unit" even though that wasn't how it was intended to be used

no that isnt correct. If you bring a farseer with mantle to a tournament and put it with something your cheating.

Mantle of the Laughing God; The bearer loses the Independent Character special rule but has the Hit & Run, Shrouded and Stealth special rules. In addition the bearer can reroll failed cover saves.

Nowhere in there does it mention disallowing another IC to join him. So please explain how that is cheating. As I said it's not the intention of the relic, but it's still legal.

That would be fine but I dont really get having a 2 farseer unit. If you encounter anything that ignores cover it would be unfortunate.

Agreed. 2 seeker missles from tau and boom, there's 300 points gone lol. (With bad invulns) I wouldn't myself try it, I barely like using the mantle in the first place. I just don't trust the reliance on cover with no look out sir cushion

Pathfinder Shaun wrote:

 Smitty0305 wrote:

Pathfinder Shaun wrote:
Mantle does strip IC, but I think because the other farseer still has it, it can legally join the mantleseers "unit" even though that wasn't how it was intended to be used

no that isnt correct. If you bring a farseer with mantle to a tournament and put it with something your cheating.

Mantle of the Laughing God; The bearer loses the Independent Character special rule but has the Hit & Run, Shrouded and Stealth special rules. In addition the bearer can reroll failed cover saves.

Nowhere in there does it mention disallowing another IC to join him. So please explain how that is cheating. As I said it's not the intention of the relic, but it's still legal.

This is correct. The Mantle prevents the first seer from joining anything. But nothing prevents the second seer or any other IC from joining the first seer. Totally legal.