Genestealer Game 3 - The Rumble in the Jungle (GAME OVER - Genestealer Victory)

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**Gornall**

So are we ready to start discussing our next course of action?

**Drk_Oblitr8r**

Gornall wrote:DarkO... is that all the "proof" you have?

Is there any proof that I'm wrong?

ginger_nid_dude wrote:Why do you think my quietness is suspicious? I admit I do like to lurk in shadows, yet I like to make it so I only speak when I see something of note.

OOC: This is only my first survival game so I don't really know how much I should be posting about what

A loyal Imperial Citizen helps the majority selflessly to root out any and all Genestealers. You selfishly hide in the shadows in an act of self preservation.

OOC: You should be actively discussing who you think is suspicious, with examples and "evidence"

**SagesStone**

Careful with that Lasgun, they can kill a Carnifex now

**Fifty**

So, who would have had the most to gain from EF's death? We know that DLS was being targetted by him at one stage, but DLS was also targetted by Lord Loss, myself and others. I'd have thought that Lord Loss would be a more likely target if the choice were DLS's alone...

Is it at all possible that the stealer's had fond out he was an assassin? It seems unlikely that they would have had a chance? Did EF say anything to give himself away?

Who else did EF point a finger of suspicion at, even peripherally? Am I remembering correctly if I say EF disliked those who said little? Although people like not_u, ginger_nid_dude and that sort did not get mentioned by name, could they have been worried about where his attention would turn next? Especially as he was a very chatty person?

I doubt EF would have been the target of a talkative person, unless they wanted to be able to direct the conversation better themselves. As Lord Loss and EF had come to approximate agreement, it would seem odd for Lord Loss to have targetted him...

**SagesStone**

In my opinion though it just looks like the steallers got a lucky shot.
It's not how much is said, but rather what you pick up from what they say that can help you decide if they are a loyalist or a traitor. Hopefully catching the traitors in time to stop another important loyalist death.

**Gornall**

OOC:: /channeling the spirit of Thor
Don't get to hung up on who might have wanted to kill EF. There are so many factors in it, that's it hard to tell what the traitors' motivation might be.

**ginger_nid_dude**

The night phase deaths, I think, should only be considered after a pattern of any way shape or form emerges.

Dark O, you didn't like my early vote yet you then quikly voted me. Eye for an I, vote: Dark O

**Mekboy**

GND raises an excellent point on the patterns. We can't get overly fixated on who dies, but if it becomes obivous that a number of people who die all tried to go for one person, then it's obvious who we lynch. Either way, EF's death hasn't really left us with any clues.

**Mekboy**

GND raises an excellent point on the patterns. We can't get overly fixated on who dies, but if it becomes obivous that a number of people who die all tried to go for one person, then it's obvious who we lynch. Either way, EF's death hasn't really left us with any clues.

**Lord-Loss**

I honestly thought that I was going to die last night phrase.

Anyhows, MekBoy and Nid are both suspicous, Mekboy doesnt see to comment unless there is a lynch coming off and Ginger is jumping on shadows.

**lord of the ghosts**

Mekboy wrote:GND raises an excellent point on the patterns. We can't get overly fixated on who dies, but if it becomes obivous that a number of people who die all tried to go for one person, then it's obvious who we lynch. Either way, EF's death hasn't really left us with any clues.

so that's what you are trying to do! Think, who is the most calm, he is the xenos!

**Mekboy**

BTW, I can put up a list of all the votes that happened yesterday, and the order, if people might find it helpful.

**Thor665**

Ye Olde Vote Accounting

0 - n0t_u
0 - Vulkan_He'stan
0 - Mekboy
0 - lord of the ghosts
0 - BrotherStynier
0 - Deff Dread red Edition
0 - Fifty
0 - Rusty Knight
1 - Drk_O (ginger_nid_dude)
1 - ginger_nid_dude (Drk_O)
0 - Lord-Loss
0 - Dark Lord Seanron
0 - Gornall

0 - No Lynch

Not Voting: n0t_u Lord-Loss BrotherStynier lord of the ghosts Deff Dread red Edition Gornall Dark Lord Seanron Vulkan_He'stan Fifty Rusty Knight Mekboy

With 13 alive it is 7 to Lynch
If the deadline were to hit now - ginger_nid_dude would be lynched
Deadline countdown

**Gornall**

Mekboy... that would be especially helpful.

**Drk_Oblitr8r**

ginger_nid_dude wrote:Dark O, you didn't like my early vote yet you then quikly voted me. Eye for an I, vote: Dark O

Wow, that might be true if you completely ignore my previously explained reasons and ignore the context completely.

**lord of the ghosts**

I think the ferrett has something to do with the ef's factors.

**Deff Dread red Edition**

"How could he, he died before EF's was killed. He was also proven to be an Imperial citizen. If he was still around, I could see it as some sort of stealer ploy to put him in the spotlight and point out that him and EF had fought during the day." I say, glancing back to the tent in which we killed the Ferret.

"It seems we are stuck gentlemen, anyone care to look back into the vox records and summarize yesterday?"

OOC: Not really sure if it would help(a summary of day 1 I mean) however we seem not to be generating much useful conversation at the moment. I would do it myself, however it is rather late and I am rather lazy

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**Mekboy**

This is my current record of yesterday. The voter is the name outside the brackets, and the target the name inside the brackets. Apologies for any wrong bits.

Rustyknight (drk o)
EF (drk o)
drk o (rustyknight)
Stynier (EF)
Deff dread (drk o)
drk o (not u) R
ferret (rustyknight)
LL (50)
DLS (drk 0)
EF (DLS)
not you (drk o)
me (drk o)
lotg (me)
Vulkan (lotg)
LL (mekboy
GND (stynier)
Rustyknight (lotg)
50 (DLS)
drk o (lotg)
drk o (vulkan)
lotg (rustyknight)
lotg (me)
drk o (gornall)
EF (drk o)
drk o (ferret)
LL (not u)
LL (50)
50 (GND)
Vulkan (LL)
Rusty (ferret)
EF (LL)
drk o (GND)
Rustyknight (drk o)
LL UNVOTE 50
vulkan (drk o)
me (lotg)
RUSTY UNVOTE DRK O
EF (drk o)
ferret (drk O)
EF UNVOTE DRK O
Gornall (ferret)
EF (ferret)
drk o (ferret)
Rustyknight (ferret)
EF (DLS)
DEFF DREAD UNVOTE DRK O
not you (ferret)
VULKAN UNVOTE DRK O
lotg (ferret)
FERRET UNVOTE DRK O
LL (DLS)
EF (lotg)
lotg (EF)
Vulkan (lotg)
GND (ferret)
EF (DLS)
50 (DLS)
ferret (DLS)
GORNALL UNVOTE FERRET
EF (FERRET)
vulkan (FERRET)
lotg (ferret)
Gornall (DLS)
stynier (DLS)
rustyknight (DLS)
drk o (DLS)
vulkan (drk o)
GORNALL UNVOTE DLS
drk o (ferret)
lotg (DLS)
rustyknight (ferret)
LL (ferret)

**lord of the ghosts**

I tallied the votes against:
Drk_0: 12
EF: 2
Deff dread: 0
Rusty Knight: 2
Me: 5
ferret: 15
Mekboy: 2
DLS: 8
vulkan: 1
LL: 1
Gornall: 1
GND: 1
stynier: 1
50: 1
not_u: 0
Is that everyone?
That's 52 votes.

**Drk_Oblitr8r**

OOC: Does anyone need prodding?

**Thor665**

Weekends only count as one day as regards posting requirements - currently a few players are close to getting a prod but to my current awareness no one is past 48 hours with no posts (feel free to point out anyone who is and I will happily send them a PM)

**Vulkan_He'stan**

wow I changed my vote 5 times

**SagesStone**

So you're saying that if we just went after the most suspicious according to the vote record alone it would be Drk_O?

GND it goes an eye for an eye. It's rather stupid as if we just went around getting revenge on everyone simply because they attacked us we wouldn't have any eyes would we?
It's not that I don't think voting so someone simply because they're voting for you is not very good, it's just that it shouldn't be the only reason for voting for someone as it's reckless and can leave you blind to the real threats. If anything it raises suspicion for you because it can also give the impresssion that you know who is a loyalist and who is a traitor. The only way you could know something like that is if you're an Inquisitor or if you're a traitor. Either way it makes you a more obvious target for either group.

LoG wrote:
Mekboy wrote:GND raises an excellent point on the patterns. We can't get overly fixated on who dies, but if it becomes obivous that a number of people who die all tried to go for one person, then it's obvious who we lynch. Either way, EF's death hasn't really left us with any clues.

so that's what you are trying to do! Think, who is the most calm, he is the xenos!

LoG, I hope that was sarcasm. Being calm doesn't mean that they're a traitor simply that their trying to approach it more carefully as to not make any mistakes or to try to be as acurate as possible. A loyalist death is fine as long as it reveals a traitor, otherwise it's a waste.

**Drk_Oblitr8r**

n0t_u, I think he was saying it as "Ohh, so thats what you're thinking" type of way.

Who do you think is a genestealer atm btw?

**SagesStone**

Well GND, you and possibly Vulkan.
Of course they'll probably nearly all turn out to be wrong

**VictorVonTzeentch**

I would think so far we've had one waste, and the removal of an annoying presence.

**Dark Lord Seanron**

Mistakes are inevitable at the start...

And I don't think we can discern any pattern as of yet, unless ithe pattern is a lack of a pattern at all!

**Deff Dread red Edition**

"I think that, thinking the lack of a pattern, is a pattern is rather over thinking things(OOC:I couldn't find any better way to word it). I know these stealers are clever buggers, however, I think day ones votes just indicate mass voting confusion."

**Lord-Loss**

I too think Vulkan is suspicous, he put Drk_0 very close to an lynch and hasnt talked much, apart from when he was lynching!

LoG is also suspicous, he accuses people of being xenos filth and casts suspicon where there is no suspicon!

**Drk_Oblitr8r**

Lord-Loss, I agree the lotg is odd...