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Ensis Ferrae wrote:I'm also rather glad that match is over... I watched the first two goals, and stopped watching. To me, as an uneducated soccer newb, I felt that Robben was trying to make up for a lack of diving in this match. His card I'm not sure if it was for fouling the other player, or for diving trying to get a foul
To be fair, I didn't see any outright diving from him, just lots of being fouled and/or exagerrating contact.
I was a bit confused by the commentators when they said that maybe it's because Brazil are from lots of different leagues. The dutch have played people from the BPL, Bundesliga, Eredivisie, Super Lig, Serie A, La Liga and the Ukrainian League. That's 7 leagues.
Brazil have players from La Liga, BPL, Ligue 1, Brazilian league, Bundesliga, Serie A, Ukrainian league and Russian league, which is 8 leagues total. One league extra isn't a massive difference (especially when three of those leagues are between three players), that's just making up excuses for the fact that the team was, straight up, terrible.
DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+ JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles. corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day. greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid.
If being defeated by Britain is the key to winning the World Cup, how come the Netherlands has never won yet?
We were defeated by Britain in the 4th Anglo-Dutch War! I demand war recompensations in the form of a World Cup!
Saw the ending ceremony. The hell did I just see. It was just a lot of twirling and playbacking.
Poor ignorant guardsmen, it be but one of many of the great miracles of the Emperor! The Emperor is magic, like Harry Potter, but more magic! A most real and true SPACE WIZARD! And for the last time... I'm not a space plumber.
glad to see it's the german lineup I wanted, except for Ozil instead of Schurrle. Looking good for the Krauts. I reckon 3-1, with Higuain or Messi, Klose, Muller and Kroos or Schurrle (if he's brought on) scoring.
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DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+ JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles. corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day. greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid.
The winger suddenly breaks away with a great burst of speed and energy. Gotze is there in the box. The cross is good. He controls it beautifully and delivers a super left foot volley.
Ruglud wrote:How the hell did Messi win player of the tournament. He was a shadow of his league form...
yeah, he really didn't deserve it. That's the board members talking- should be Rodriguez, if any forward-going player.
Also, what a game by Mascherano, Boateng and the human punching bag that is Schweinsteiger, especially.
Glad to see the Krauts win, even if it goes against everything I've learnt from being British
The better team won in the end, although Argentina were damned unlucky to not score (especially Messi, Higuain and Palacio all being 1vs1.
DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+ JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles. corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day. greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid.
So glad that the best team won. Argentina played really smart and did everything they had to do, just couldn't finish their chances.
Germany controlled the game and finally got the goal they deserved.
Congratulations to Germany. Happy for Klose and Lahm.
Great world cup. Germany is gonna be a force to be reckoned with for awhile... I mean... they always are, but a lot of their team is pretty young. They might be even better in 2018.
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I've never liked soccer. Hated it. But I feel like watching soccer post world cup. My girlfriends watches it regularly (Teams over in England). Not sure where to start? soccer here in the states? (MLS) or Premier league? I like that team with the canon.
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I've never liked soccer. Hated it. But I feel like watching soccer post world cup. My girlfriends watches it regularly (Teams over in England). Not sure where to start? soccer here in the states? (MLS) or Premier league? I like that team with the canon.
BPL gets you a higher quality of football being played, but then if you decide to support a team, watching them live is a little more tricky
The team with the cannon is Arsenal, who basically sit at fourth place every season, and other than one trophy a few months back, haven't won a trophy in something like nine years.
Though their fans are generally pretty great, because due to the aforementioned lack of trophies or season titles, there's very few glory hunters there. Plus they have a good defense, a very promising midfield, and every so often come out with the most ridiculous goals:
DS:90-S++G+++M++B++I+Plotr06#+D+++A++++/eWD251R+++T(Ot)DM+ JB: I like the concept of a free Shrike roaming through the treetops of the jungle. I'm not sure that I like the idea of a real Shrike sitting on my couch eating my Skittles. corpsesarefun: Thank god I missed be nice to shrike day. greenskin lynn: because of all the skittles and soda, you basically live off sugar water, like some sort of freakish human-hummingbird hybrid.
Cardiff has this awesome Dragon logo and their nickname is the blue birds, granted their is a blue bird on their logo... coat of arms? Crest? Sigil? what do you call it over there?
I'm looking at some of the stadium sizes of the teams. There seems to be a large gap between small and large teams. 20-some thousand to 75k+
Isn't there a minimum number of seats a stadium needs for a team to be part of the BPL?
Piston Honda wrote: In BPL, how come they refer to all the teams as City FC wear as all the Major sports in the US it's City and team name
Denver Broncos
Boston Bruins
New Jersey Devils
I'm a bit lost how BPL works.
Can't really speak for the BPL specifically, but I can tell you about why the Bundesliga (German 1st League Soccer) has the same name convention. I would imagine that the reasons for BPL are very similar though.
Pretty much all the teams in the Bundesliga are still members of what one might be able to consider "amateur clubs". These clubs don't just exist for the team in the league, but they are actually old sport clubs that have been around for a very long time which have managed to climb into the major league (relegation and promotion is another thing that is not present in US sports).
One such example is FC Bayern Munich, or actually "Fussball-Club Bayern Muenchen Eingetragener Verein (e. V.)" aka "Soccer-Club Bavaria Munich, registered Association". They have a pro-team that is known as FC Bayern, but the actual club by the same name is actually a sports-club that has amateur soccer teams, chess teams, gymnastics, handball, volleyball, etc. The reason you have so many SCs and FCs is because they are actual clubs in actual cities with many members. Another one would be "Turn- und Sportgemeinschaft 1899 Hoffenheim e.V" aka "Gymnastics and Sports Community 1899 Hoffenheim, registered Association". That's the legal name of the actual club which has many teams in many sports and is open to pretty much anybody. The soccer team uses the name "1899 Hoffenheim" with the number being the year they were founded. "1. FSV Mainz 05 e.V." was the first Soccer and Sports Club formed in Mainz in 1905.
But each of them is technicall just a gym/sports club/soccer club that is open to the public and which has managed to recruit enough players to field a team that was successful enough to make it to the 1st league. A US equivalent would be having a sports league with the following teams: Oklahoma City YMCA, Dallas Gold's Gym, St. Louis Soccer-Club (like the after school soccer club that kids play in), etc.
Cardiff has this awesome Dragon logo and their nickname is the blue birds, granted their is a blue bird on their logo... coat of arms? Crest? Sigil? what do you call it over there?
I think the British term is Crest.
The Dragon is from the coat of arms of the city of Cardiff, and the Blue Birds seems to be the mascot of the actual club itself.
I'm looking at some of the stadium sizes of the teams. There seems to be a large gap between small and large teams. 20-some thousand to 75k+
Isn't there a minimum number of seats a stadium needs for a team to be part of the BPL?
There usually is a minimum standard for promotion to the different leagues. Things like stadium size, lighting, room for TV crews, changing rooms for visiting teams and officials, etc. It depends on the individual leagues.
Again I am ignorant with all this.
European Soccer is very different than US sports and even the US soccer system.
Piston Honda wrote: In BPL, how come they refer to all the teams as City FC wear as all the Major sports in the US it's City and team name
d-usa has the right of it, at least in it's foundation... I think that many of these sporting clubs are so far removed from the amateur sporting clubs (I mean, they are no longer a Gold's Gym whose membership is paying for a football team). Most of them operate in the same manner as American professional sporting teams, but with a few differences.... I know that English Rugby operates somewhat similarly to MLB, in that they have the big club (Saracens, Harlequins, Saints, Leicester, etc) but then they have "minor league" teams, in the form of their Academy teams (U-20, U-19s, etc). But yeah, the naming thing hails from a time when organized athletics were seen as the "proper" form of gentlemanly pasttimes, outside of work. During the formative years of what is now the Premier League, the Premiership (Rugby), etc. there were strict rules of Amateurism.... Well, strict wouldn't quite be the way to look at it, but that was the intent... As time progressed, FA was the first organization to go full professional, with Rugby having a schism and forming Rugby Union and Rugby League (League being the first form of Rugby to professionalize).
Personally, I think it's cool that it's still a big deal for Rugby and Soccer to have their [City Name] [FC, United, RFC, etc.] naming conventions, as the teams are literally tied to their cities. Whereas in the US, it'd be just as easy, theoretically to move the team from Chicago to L.A. to become the Los Angeles Bears... there's not as much "ownership" of the team names (for the fan base there is, but often times there's nothing intrinsically valuable about the team name in conjunction with the location)
Also, one of the things that is different from US sports to European, is the priority placed on Scholastic athletics.... Kids growing up playing soccer or rugby, or curling, etc. don't play for "Winston Churchill Senior Highschool", or when they do there isn't nearly as much emphasis placed on them through the school. Instead they sign up for their local clubs and, especially as 16-19 year olds, they'll play for "Arsenal U-19s" or "Harlequins U-19s" etc.
The closest thing I can think of in the US to this, would be the American Legion Baseball leagues in the summers for High Schoolers (even though they quite often have to be an all-star on their school team to make a Legion team)