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2016/12/29 05:17:52
Subject: Star Wars : Rogue One - now in theaters - pg 12 (spoilers)
Saw it a second time with the missus and Tarkin and Leia were much less noticeable when I knew it was coming. I still think it was the shock of 'wait, Peter Cushing is dead'.
2016/12/29 15:57:24
Subject: Star Wars : Rogue One - now in theaters - pg 12 (spoilers)
doktor_g wrote: I first saw "Star Wars" before it was called "A New Hope" at the age of 6, at a Drive-In movie theater astride a 1977 Corvette T-top. It was 1979 and I remember that I didnt want to go play at the playground. I didnt ask for candy, or soda or popcorn. Enthralled.
Later, all my friends and I could talk about was the rumor that Luke was Vaders son. I dont know how it got leaked to children before the internet and before Empire came to our little town's "Mall Twin Cinema," but I remember seeing the back of a SW trading card and it made me think... "yeah... I bet he is." I have loved all the Star Wars movies. I even didnt mind JarJar or the Ewoks, but they distracted the story a bit... but I didn't care. It was Star Wars. When I go... Im on the T-top again under a stary canopy in the South's warm summer.
Empire or A New Hope has been the reigning champ for most of us including myself.... the reflexive "go to" whwn someone asks whats your favorite Star Wars movie? Tonight, for the first time since the summer of 1979, I felt truely transported.
Tonight, I can confidently say... Rogue One is my new favorite. I feel weird about it, but its true. It had all the good and none of the bad. My only regret was that I am not 6 again.
This story is near verbatim for me. I was with my older teenage uncle, his friend and my older brother. We had tickets for back to back showings so we just stayed in the theater and watched it twice. During the intermission, we discussed the whole thing with amassment. One of my fondest memories as yoots.
Rogue one was above average for a film and superior in terms of past franchise releases. It kind of has to be measured that way.
All the foreign accents are kinda annoying. Really not sure why that's become a thing.
2016/12/29 17:16:25
Subject: Star Wars : Rogue One - now in theaters - pg 12 (spoilers)
Saw it today, and I loved it more than Episode VII, to be honest. I thought K-2SO was hilarious. Tarkin (looked a lot like his Clone Wars appearance) and Leia were also very well done.
@Byte: At the end of the day, a galaxy is a big place. I don't mind different accents.
-Loki- wrote: Saw it a second time with the missus and Tarkin and Leia were much less noticeable when I knew it was coming. I still think it was the shock of 'wait, Peter Cushing is dead'.
It looked like Peter Cushing, but it didn't sound much like him or have his manner. It did that thing that CG stuff often does of having the character constantly making facial movements in eyes, eyebrows and lips, to look more organic, but that isn't what Cushing' performance is like. It just didn't sound like him either.
2016/12/29 17:33:17
Subject: Star Wars : Rogue One - now in theaters - pg 12 (spoilers)
Hey, I've got a question; Tarkin is a Grand Moff right? Yet he wears a basic imperial officers uniform. Meanwhile director Krennic has this unique white uniform with a cape. It's not important really but I kinda feel like they should swap uniforms. Again, it's not important. I just overthink things like this.
2016/12/30 19:22:32
Subject: Star Wars : Rogue One - now in theaters - pg 12 (spoilers)
I don't think he's been promoted to Moff at this point?
Either way, I believe the ISB wore white uniforms, so I assume Krennic was associated with them.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Hey, I've got a question; Tarkin is a Grand Moff right? Yet he wears a basic imperial officers uniform. Meanwhile director Krennic has this unique white uniform with a cape. It's not important really but I kinda feel like they should swap uniforms. Again, it's not important. I just overthink things like this.
Truly great and powerful men don't feel the need to grand stand.
Krennic on the other hand is a nobody, full of false bravado and pomposity.
2016/12/30 19:36:46
Subject: Re:Star Wars : Rogue One - now in theaters - pg 12 (spoilers)
Hey, I've got a question; Tarkin is a Grand Moff right? Yet he wears a basic imperial officers uniform. Meanwhile director Krennic has this unique white uniform with a cape. It's not important really but I kinda feel like they should swap uniforms. Again, it's not important. I just overthink things like this.
Truly great and powerful men don't feel the need to grand stand.
Krennic on the other hand is a nobody, full of false bravado and pomposity.
Future War Cultist wrote: One of the best things about Rogue One is getting to see Vader in his armor go on a rampage on the big screen. Not only was it equal parts awesome and terrifying, it also makes his reputation in the eyes of the rebellion justified now. It really canonizes what he know of him in the expanded universe stuff, and it shows that the original era can still keep up with modern standards of awesomeness. Plus, the way it was done really suited him. Rather than going in fast, it was calculated and relentless. I think he barely moved his arms above his shoulders. It befits a seven foot tall cyborg.
Yes we finally see Vader as the walking death machine he was meant to be.
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2016/12/30 20:33:14
Subject: Re:Star Wars : Rogue One - now in theaters - pg 12 (spoilers)
Correct. I wasn't able to find a specific citation saying he was in the ISB, but ISB officers did often wear white uniforms.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Azreal13 wrote: I don't think he's been promoted to Moff at this point?
Either way, I believe the ISB wore white uniforms, so I assume Krennic was associated with them.
Tarkin is a Moff at this point, certainly. As well as being Governor of the Imperial Outlying Territories.
(These are the regional governors given total control over their domains with the dissolution of the Senate).
As are several of the other people at the Death star "round table" in the "meetings" in ep4.
I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
2016/12/31 03:39:44
Subject: Star Wars : Rogue One - now in theaters - pg 12 (spoilers)
I haven't watched any of the animated shows, so I'm not very familiar with Gerrera. But he feels very much like a rebel Vader, with the prosthetic limbs and the use of the breathing mask (did they use a Vader breath?). I was talking to my wife about him, and he feels very much like he has the same "do whatever it takes for the cause" fanaticism that Anakin had, just without the force.
2016/12/31 03:53:15
Subject: Star Wars : Rogue One - now in theaters - pg 12 (spoilers)
d-usa wrote: Watched it a second time, still loved it.
I haven't watched any of the animated shows, so I'm not very familiar with Gerrera. But he feels very much like a rebel Vader, with the prosthetic limbs and the use of the breathing mask (did they use a Vader breath?). I was talking to my wife about him, and he feels very much like he has the same "do whatever it takes for the cause" fanaticism that Anakin had, just without the force.
He was in "Clone Wars", but is going to be fleshed out more in "Rebels" when it returns.
2016/12/31 04:03:03
Subject: Star Wars : Rogue One - now in theaters - pg 12 (spoilers)
d-usa wrote: Watched it a second time, still loved it.
I haven't watched any of the animated shows, so I'm not very familiar with Gerrera. But he feels very much like a rebel Vader, with the prosthetic limbs and the use of the breathing mask (did they use a Vader breath?). I was talking to my wife about him, and he feels very much like he has the same "do whatever it takes for the cause" fanaticism that Anakin had, just without the force.
Which makes sense because in the one episode he appears in he's trained to be a guerrilla fighter by Anakin.
2016/12/31 21:46:23
Subject: Star Wars : Rogue One - now in theaters - pg 12 (spoilers)
-Loki- wrote: Saw it a second time with the missus and Tarkin and Leia were much less noticeable when I knew it was coming. I still think it was the shock of 'wait, Peter Cushing is dead'.
It looked like Peter Cushing, but it didn't sound much like him or have his manner. It did that thing that CG stuff often does of having the character constantly making facial movements in eyes, eyebrows and lips, to look more organic, but that isn't what Cushing' performance is like. It just didn't sound like him either.
It WASN'T Peter Cushing's voice, which explains why it didn't sound like him. They only used a Mocap'd facemapped Cushing's face. Nothing else.
The VOICE PERFORMANCE belonged the actor under the CGI-facemapped face.
I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
2016/12/31 22:30:45
Subject: Re:Star Wars : Rogue One - now in theaters - pg 12 (spoilers)
-Loki- wrote: Saw it a second time with the missus and Tarkin and Leia were much less noticeable when I knew it was coming. I still think it was the shock of 'wait, Peter Cushing is dead'.
It looked like Peter Cushing, but it didn't sound much like him or have his manner. It did that thing that CG stuff often does of having the character constantly making facial movements in eyes, eyebrows and lips, to look more organic, but that isn't what Cushing' performance is like. It just didn't sound like him either.
It WASN'T Peter Cushing's voice, which explains why it didn't sound like him. They only used a Mocap'd facemapped Cushing's face. Nothing else.
The VOICE PERFORMANCE belonged the actor under the CGI-facemapped face.
It was this guy..
Literally. (His name is Guy Henry.) He's also substantially taller than Cushing was, so I'm not entirely sure voice and body were the same guy.
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
In a new interview with StarWars.com, “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story” co-production designer Doug Chiang talks in detail about his intention behind the design of Darth Vader’s castle in the film.
Speaking on his initial idea — which he says was to create a place “where [Vader] comes to meditate and to heal himself” — and discussing at length the specific design of the tower, Chiang said the following:
Vader’s castle was really fun. When I knew that we were going to possibly go back to Vader’s castle, I loved that idea of, “Okay, let’s establish Vader’s home.” The initial idea was, “Why would Vader live here?” In our minds, we started to come up with a little bit of a backstory. That perhaps this place had special meaning for him, and that this is where he comes to meditate and to heal himself. We started with the idea that maybe it should be built around his bacta tank chamber, and he comes back here to rejuvenate himself and also to meditate. So from there, the structure itself grew out from the bacta tank, and there were certain ideas that we tried. We were trying to go for a very iconic shape, and we always love tall towers. Ralph McQuarrie actually drew quite a few small thumbnail sketches [of Vader’s castle] that were very intriguing. They were kind of angular versions of a tower, and I saw the potential of where he was going, and I just exaggerated that quite a bit.
One of things we landed on early was this idea of a tuning fork — a twin tower kind of look. And it was really interesting, because then that started to give Gareth a lot of ideas like, “Well, maybe the structure is built this way because it is like a tuning fork. It’s tuning the dark side in terms of the energy.” And then we actually carried that even further to Jedha. The Jedha temple, the tower there, mirrors this but on the good side. So when you see the film, you can start to see, “Okay, Jedha had its own tower, which was configured like a tuning tower. Vader’s tower, Vader’s castle, had the same thing but it was made in black, whereas Jedha was white.” You kind of start to see the good and the bad. You may not really notice it on a first take, but hopefully it’s that foundation of design subtleties that then the audiences, on second viewing, will appreciate. And I always like to build those elements in there because it makes the design more coherent, it makes the film more coherent, and overall it makes the design language very authentic and real.
Chiang also touched on the idea that there could be “a more ancient” area beneath the castle where Vader may go to meditate, saying:
It went back to the original idea of, “Well, why would Vader be here?” and there was a series of paintings and sketches that Ralph McQuarrie did, where Luke actually visits Vader in this underground lava cave. I always thought that was such a compelling image, because you have this lava lake inside this cave and there was Vader’s throne. So we took that idea and thought, “Okay, well, maybe on the lower levels of Vader’s castle, there’s a more ancient part. That he actually built this castle on a foundation of an ancient structure.” If you look at the finished design, it has this very strong element of a structure that was there for a purpose, and that purpose was to draw energy from the lava lake. If you look at the design of the base, it feels very much like a dam, and how the lava flows through it, possibly getting energy. And so we thought, “Okay, well, that’s the foundation. Maybe even deeper, or underneath that, is an even more ancient part, which is a natural cave where Vader goes to meditate.” Visually, we’re trying to create a sort of history for the tower. The bottom is the most ancient, the lava lake dam part was perhaps what Vader built his foundation on, and then the tower was Vader’s addition.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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2017/01/01 18:06:55
Subject: Re:Star Wars : Rogue One - now in theaters - pg 12 (spoilers)
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking.
= Epic First Post.
2017/01/03 03:01:27
Subject: Star Wars : Rogue One - now in theaters - pg 12 (spoilers)
I did like this movie, though it was kind of an action overload at times. But I honestly didn't feel too much for the characters. It's a movie that tries too hard in many areas. I kind of feel like the new Star Wars is for the younger generation. I'll watch these movies but for me.. SW is the original three and that's it. The rest is like fanfiction to me. For now i'm just looking forward to more adult oriented sci fi and leave SW to the kids, because there is no turning back now for the disney SW spectacle. The theatre was full of kids who knew more about the characters/names than I did, and that's a bad sign. It means I did not walk into this movie giving a crap or expecting anything worthwhile.
2017/01/03 03:35:47
Subject: Re:Star Wars : Rogue One - now in theaters - pg 12 (spoilers)
I think Crennick [or however his name is spelled] wears white to make him more iconic. Plus the white could be a nod to Thrawn anyway; seeing as the film was full of nods to the E.U
2017/01/03 04:43:57
Subject: Re:Star Wars : Rogue One - now in theaters - pg 12 (spoilers)
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