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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 01:42:35
Subject: What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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Regular Dakkanaut
Latveria
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Given that they don' have a soul, and are immune to/suppress psychic powers, what would happen? Would they be invincible, or would they be torn up just like everyone else?
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Playing:
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-Chaos Daemons
-Sometimes CSM allies for Daemons
Alts:
-Dark Angels
-Inquisition, nobody expects the imperial
-Officio Assassinorum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 01:51:30
Subject: What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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It's how the Tau travel FTL. They get pushed out at extreme velocity.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 03:43:48
Subject: Re:What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Their physical body would likely be killed by the tumult around them, and lack of oxygen. Then they're just another chunk of real matter in the nightmare of the warp.
They'd be immune to any daemonic energy, but the warp isn't just that. If you were immune to solar radiation it wouldn't stop you from dying to the intense heat of the sun or its crushing gravity.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 05:30:45
Subject: Re:What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Grey Templar wrote:Their physical body would likely be killed by the tumult around them, and lack of oxygen. Then they're just another chunk of real matter in the nightmare of the warp.
They'd be immune to any daemonic energy, but the warp isn't just that. If you were immune to solar radiation it wouldn't stop you from dying to the intense heat of the sun or its crushing gravity.
Heat = Radiation.
Now gravity yes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 05:32:18
Subject: What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
The oceans of the world
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The warp would collapse
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 06:34:41
Subject: What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
The Internet- where men are men, women are men, and kids are undercover cops
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I have this theory that the Shadow in the Warp from a large enough Hive Fleet entering the Eye of Terror could bring down the Chaos gods themselves.
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Jon Garrett wrote:Perhaps not technically a Marine Chapter anymore, but the Flame Falcons would be pretty creepy to fight.
"Boss, we waz out lookin' for grub when some of them Spice Marines showed up and shot all the lads."
"Right. Well, did you at least use the burnas?"
"We tried, but the gits was already on fire."
"...Kunnin'." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 11:52:45
Subject: What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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Dakka Veteran
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The Shadow of the Warp isn't a nullifying thing which is bad for the Warp, it's extreme communication in the Warp which people outside the Warp get insane by because their minds can't take this kind of psychic activity.
That the Shadow in the Warp should somehow be bad for the Warp is either a story made up by people which haven't read about it or it's made up by Tyranid fans which need to talk Tyranids > Chaos. I'm on the other side of course but I'm still right about the Shadow, just read about it.
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Andy Chambers wrote:
To me the Chaos Space Marines needed to be characterised as a threat reaching back to the Imperium's past, a threat which had refused to lie down and become part of history. This is in part why the gods of Chaos are less pivotal in Codex Chaos; we felt that the motivations of Chaos Space Marines should remain their own, no matter how debased and vile. Though the corrupted Space Marines of the Traitor Legions make excellent champions for the gods of Chaos, they are not pawns and have their own agendas of vengeance, empire-building vindication or arcane study which gives them purpose. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 12:52:30
Subject: Re:What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
Caliban
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They'd probably just nullify the effects of the warp in a small radius around them. I mean a blank in the normal world nullifies psychic energy in their vicinity, not in the entire galaxy. So no reason why the warp would collapse!
EmpNortonII wrote:I have this theory that the Shadow in the Warp from a large enough Hive Fleet entering the Eye of Terror could bring down the Chaos gods themselves.
The warp is a whole other dimension. Extremely unlikely the Tyranids would have the biomass to even marginally disrupt it once they were inside. We don't even know how big the warp is. It could be as large as the galaxy or even the universe. Maybe the Chaos Gods only control a tiny portion of it.
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And the Angels of Darkness descended on pinions of fire and light... the great and terrible dark angels.
He was not the golden lord. The Emperor will carry us to the stars, but never beyond them. My dreams will be lies, if a golden lord does not rise.
I look to the stars now, with the old scrolls burning runes across my memory. And I see my own hands as I write these words. Erebus and Kor Phaeron speak the truth.
My hands. They, too, are golden. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 16:29:38
Subject: Re:What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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EngulfedObject wrote:They'd probably just nullify the effects of the warp in a small radius around them. I mean a blank in the normal world nullifies psychic energy in their vicinity, not in the entire galaxy. So no reason why the warp would collapse!
EmpNortonII wrote:I have this theory that the Shadow in the Warp from a large enough Hive Fleet entering the Eye of Terror could bring down the Chaos gods themselves.
The warp is a whole other dimension. Extremely unlikely the Tyranids would have the biomass to even marginally disrupt it once they were inside. We don't even know how big the warp is. It could be as large as the galaxy or even the universe. Maybe the Chaos Gods only control a tiny portion of it.
That's actually my theory regarding the Old Ones - they left this galaxy and went to a neighboring one because the Warp in the Milky Way was polluted. Then, they encountered the Tyranids, and were devoured and then BOOM! Shadow in the Warp.
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To quote a fictional character... "Let's make this fun!"
Tactical_Spam wrote:There was a story in the SM omnibus where a single kroot killed 2-3 marines then ate their gene seed and became a Kroot-startes.
We must all join the Kroot-startes... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 19:13:41
Subject: Re:What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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EngulfedObject wrote:They'd probably just nullify the effects of the warp in a small radius around them. I mean a blank in the normal world nullifies psychic energy in their vicinity, not in the entire galaxy. So no reason why the warp would collapse!
EmpNortonII wrote:I have this theory that the Shadow in the Warp from a large enough Hive Fleet entering the Eye of Terror could bring down the Chaos gods themselves.
The warp is a whole other dimension. Extremely unlikely the Tyranids would have the biomass to even marginally disrupt it once they were inside. We don't even know how big the warp is. It could be as large as the galaxy or even the universe. Maybe the Chaos Gods only control a tiny portion of it.
The Warp is an infinitely large universe of pure liquid id connected to other realities as well. If they wanted a Chaos God could likely wipe them out with infinitely respawning, limitless Daemons, or the Hive Fleet becomes another peculiar permanent resident. Automatically Appended Next Post: EmpNortonII wrote:
I have this theory that the Shadow in the Warp from a large enough Hive Fleet entering the Eye of Terror could bring down the Chaos gods themselves.
No, you have a Hypothesis as you lack the evidence to actually support your claim.
I really wish people would actually remember the definition and proper usage of the word "theory".
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“There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.” |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 19:17:07
Subject: What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Im pretty sure nothing would happen considering they move cluxuses through warp travel anyway. as well as sisters of silence IIRC.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 19:26:57
Subject: What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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Can Tyranids be mind controlled or possessed by daemons?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 19:31:29
Subject: What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Filch wrote:Can Tyranids be mind controlled or possessed by daemons?
Possibly by a VERY Strong psyker. i know some one had at least taped into the hive mind so i dont see why it couldn't.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/20 23:45:16
Subject: What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Desubot wrote: Filch wrote:Can Tyranids be mind controlled or possessed by daemons?
Possibly by a VERY Strong psyker. i know some one had at least taped into the hive mind so i dont see why it couldn't.
was it ever confirmed the hive mind was tapped into? I know it's been suggested tigerus MAY HAVE but all the sources I've seen have been very vague onto if he actually did
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/21 01:38:54
Subject: Re:What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Tigerius has, on several occasions, tapped into the Hive Mind and been able to predict the path of some Hive Fleets. But the effort was extraordinary and almost killed him IIRC.
You could almost certainly mind control some minor creatures if they were separated from the Hive Mind, but they'd likely revert to the Hive Mind if they came back into contact.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/24 04:47:30
Subject: What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Well, having just read through the new Dark Eldar codex, I found a bit about Vect stole a bunch of nulls from a inquisitorial stronghold on the dark side of the moon of Dakka, to hang around the Khaine's Gate (was that even a thing? Somehow I don't recall a Khaine's Gate before this) to ward off the things on the other side (daemons). So it's called Stealing the Void, 978999.M41, the Nulls are explicitly said to be "anathema to the Daemons of Chaos". But in just the next event 995999.M41 The Great Eye Opens, "Meanwhile, in a chamber filled with swirling madness, hairline cracks spread across Khaine's Gate, and the caged Nulls begin to scream..." (Codex: Dark Eldar. 7th Edition. digital). Btw, Khaine's Gate is the border between webway space and the warp, "Beyond Khaine's Gate lies the madness of the warp, ..." So I'd say even blanks can be at least overwhelmed by too much pure warp stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/24 05:35:09
Subject: What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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As with Psykers, Untouchables have varying power-levels. Some Blanks are more-blank than others, and those that are not "delta-grade" or better (at least, and to use a psyker term), are probably not "blank enough" to fully keep daemons at bay.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/24 05:45:47
Subject: What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Psienesis wrote:As with Psykers, Untouchables have varying power-levels. Some Blanks are more-blank than others, and those that are not "delta-grade" or better (at least, and to use a psyker term), are probably not "blank enough" to fully keep daemons at bay. Well, there is no way of knowing that; blanks/pariahs/untouchables/nulls are specifically said to those possessing no presence in the warp. If there were a grade for blanks, it would indicate that there is a measurement of how much less warp presence a person with no warp presence can have, and the answer is none. Regardless, if there is a grade for Blanks, then this piece of fluff would go on to indicate that Blanks as a whole, are not entirely immune to warp energy.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/24 05:49:20
Subject: Re:What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Not necessarily. Think of untouchables as being negative psykers. They don't have no warp presence, its more like they have a negative warp presence. Instead of being invisible when a soul would normally be a shining light, they are a yawning abyss that swallows up any warp energy in the area.
The Culexus is a power enough anti-psyker that they can project negative psychic energy.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/24 06:03:06
Subject: Re:What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Grey Templar wrote:Not necessarily. Think of untouchables as being negative psykers. They don't have no warp presence, its more like they have a negative warp presence. Instead of being invisible when a soul would normally be a shining light, they are a yawning abyss that swallows up any warp energy in the area. The Culexus is a power enough anti-psyker that they can project negative psychic energy. The Culexus Assassin slays his foe by using a deadly psychic blast directed through an ancient device known as an Animus Speculum. It is not fully known how this device functions, but it is speculated that the warp energy separated from its targets by the null aura of the Culexus is held in this device and then unleashed. Indeed, the weapon becomes more and more potent in the vicinity of psykers. The device fires bolts of negative psychic energy and drains the power of nearby psykers to bolster its power. -- From Lexicanum, Culexux Temple, "Equipment" From Lexicanum, the "negative psychic power" isn't projected from the Culexus assassin, but rather a device that uses the Pariah as a tool for psychic energy collection and convert them into something else. As for energy, yes there can be "negative energy", regardless if the writers really know what it (either the concept or the term) means, if the settings so demand; on the other hand, presence is a separate concept, you either have no presence, or have one, be it "positive" or "negative".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/01/27 18:51:00
Subject: What would happen if a blank somehow ended up in the warp?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Dan Abnett has probably written more about Blanks and Untouchables than any other writer in the Black Library. From him, we know that Blanks exist in various grades of ability and, further, there's ways to mask a Blank's presence from those they would otherwise affect.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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