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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/17 19:41:25
Subject: Independent characters from non AM codex recieving orders?
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Been Around the Block
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Let's say an SW runepriest joins a AM unit of veterans. Then I put the ignore cover order on them, does the runepriest then also recieve ignore cover?
The order rules only states that i have to select a unit from the AM codex and then that unit have the order if I succed the leadership test.
He is counted as part of the unit right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/17 19:45:33
Subject: Independent characters from non AM codex recieving orders?
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The Hive Mind
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iirc the order says that models from from the AM codex in the unit gain ignores cover, but I could be wrong.
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My beautiful wife wrote:Trucks = Carnifex snack, Tanks = meals. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/17 19:47:30
Subject: Re:Independent characters from non AM codex recieving orders?
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Been Around the Block
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‘Fire on my Target!’ can only be issued by a model with the Senior Officer special rule. The ordered unit must make a shooting attack. When resolving this shooting attack, all weapons in the ordered unit have the Ignores Cover special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/17 20:04:06
Subject: Independent characters from non AM codex recieving orders?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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The Voice of Command rule specifies "unit from Codex: Astra Militarm", not "models in target unit from Codex: Astra Militarum"; this has not been FAQed. The Independent Character rules state that the model counts as part of the unit he's joined for all purposes.
So yes, if an IC joins a Guard unit, he benefits from any Orders the officer gives the unit. Go to town.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/17 20:47:48
Subject: Re:Independent characters from non AM codex recieving orders?
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Been Around the Block
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So does it work the other way around as well? Lets say a AM psyker joins a SW unit, does the whole unit gain the benefits from the orders?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/17 20:51:38
Subject: Re:Independent characters from non AM codex recieving orders?
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The Hive Mind
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Fraktalen wrote:So does it work the other way around as well? Lets say a AM psyker joins a SW unit, does the whole unit gain the benefits from the orders?
No. The AM psyker can't be given an order.
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My beautiful wife wrote:Trucks = Carnifex snack, Tanks = meals. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/17 21:00:45
Subject: Re:Independent characters from non AM codex recieving orders?
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Been Around the Block
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And why is that?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/17 21:04:41
Subject: Re:Independent characters from non AM codex recieving orders?
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Fraktalen wrote:And why is that?
Because the IC rule states that an IC is part of the unit he joins for all purposes.
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If I sound like I'm being a condescending butthole, I'm not. Read my reply as neutrally as possible, please and thank you. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/17 21:05:02
Subject: Re:Independent characters from non AM codex recieving orders?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Because the AM psyker has become part of the SW unit for all rules purposes. And you can't give orders to a SW unit, since they are not part of the AM codex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/17 21:07:29
Subject: Re:Independent characters from non AM codex recieving orders?
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Been Around the Block
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True
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/02/17 21:09:23
Subject: Re:Independent characters from non AM codex recieving orders?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Because when the AM psyker joined the SW unit it become a member of the SW unit, but the SW did not become members of an AM unit. The orders may only be issued to AM units.
Is the Psyker a AM unit whilst also a member of the SW unit? More then likely not. Its not explicitly expressed in the RAW that an IC stops counting as a unit when it joins a different unit but 99.999% of the players are going to play it that way. You also don't want to go down that road when you start thinking about targeting units for powers/shooting etc.
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