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So this is the list I plan on taking to a local Tournament put on by Forge the Narrative/Atomic Empire in Durham NC. I only need to purchase a stompa to field this list. My previous list I posted is not feasible because I just don't have enough time to buy/assemble/paint before Feb 28th. So here goes:

1850 Stompatide

Orks CAD~1140
No Force Org Slot
Mek~20
Grot oiler
Mek~20
Grot oiler

HQ
Big Mek~60
Lucky Stick, Basic Armour
Painboy~50

Troops
Gretchin~35
Gretchin~35

Heavy Support
Mek Gunz~150
5x KMK

LOW
Stompa~770

Green Tide~709
Warboss~109 Warlord
Big Bosspole, 'Eavy Armour, PK
10x Slugga Boyz~60
10x Slugga Boyz~60
10x Slugga Boyz~60
10x Slugga Boyz~60
10x Slugga Boyz~60
10x Slugga Boyz~60
10x Slugga Boyz~60
10x Slugga Boyz~60
10x Slugga Boyz~60
10x Slugga Boyz~60

So the plan is for the tide to do what a tide does best. The KMK are for high Toughness models and Tanks, and the stompa is for laying down loads of Dakka all over the board and drawing fire. The painboy and Big Mek with lucky stikk are attached to tide to give FNP and +1 WS. The two basic meks will be inside the Stompa rolling to recover weapons and hull points, they also each have a grot oiler to give a re-roll. The only other thing I can think of is to drop one KMK and the grot oilers for a Deffkopta for objective grabbing.

Please give any comment and concerns. This will be my first tournament since 3rd edition when I was playing as a kid. Thanks

If you can find a way to get a KFF on your big mek and keep him within 6" of your stompa that stompa will have a 5+ invul from shooting which would help it out a lot. Should help out the boys around him too so they have a 5++ and FNP. It would also help protect the mek and Painboy from being barraged in case the fail their look out sir.

I also think your tide needs some nobs with PK to help out.

What would you get rid of to get the KFF and PKs?

I would loss MEK guns, don't really need them when you got a stompa, plus they are an easy first blood for any deeps tricking army especially if the are going first

What's the point of a greentide without PK's?

Suggestions:

a) As koosei says, get some more power klaws for the green tide. You don't need a full complement, but you want more than 1.

b) As the Green Tide is a Waaaggh! Ghazghkull formation, not an Ork one per se, the Warboss gets access to the Waaaggh! Ghazghkull relics. Da Big Bosspole is pretty damn cheap and makes the unit Fearless. This means no extra casualties from Mob Rule, and no WS1 ineptitude against opponents with Fear.

c) The painboy is a good call. I think a kustom force field is a good call - for the green tide, the stompa or (ideally) both.

d) You've got an easy first blood regardless - because you can't hide both Grot mobz and the meks inside the stompa (20 man capacity only), so keep the mek gunz if you like. I'd actually be more tempted by the Flak weapon (Traktor Kannons?) as you've got limited ability to annoy things in the air. That said, if you want to modify the list they're the only thing you can really cut for points.

Thanks for all the input. I can't make room for KFF and PKs, it has to be one or the other. I also forgot that the stompa confers fearless to any UNITS that are within 6". It is called Effigy and it's in the Ork codex. I have to take at least 3 KMK because I don't have any other high strength low AP weapons. Could I place them in the middle of the Tide to prevent outflank and other pesky threats?

frboals wrote:
Thanks for all the input. I can't make room for KFF and PKs, it has to be one or the other. I also forgot that the stompa confers fearless to any UNITS that are within 6". It is called Effigy and it's in the Ork codex. I have to take at least 3 KMK because I don't have any other high strength low AP weapons. Could I place them in the middle of the Tide to prevent outflank and other pesky threats?

i would go for power klaws then. that way your opponent cant feed you tough units to keep your tide out of the game.

i would personally get rid of the KMK s and get as many power klaws as possible and maybe some standard nobz to soak up challenges from your opponent as you always have to accept because of gazzy supplement

also, give the big mek da finkin kap to infiltrate the tide, or give him da fixer upper to repair stompa easily.

The two basic Meks have to be attached to a squad.

Look at swapping out your Stompa for Big Mek Buzzgob's stompa. Its a discount of 300 points or so, and its still a big nasty model with some interesting stuff.

BossMakk wrote:
Look at swapping out your Stompa for Big Mek Buzzgob's stompa. Its a discount of 300 points or so, and its still a big nasty model with some interesting stuff.

That's a typo that Forge World are very open about.
More like +800

Ah, it is? Whoops then.

Has that ever officcially been faq? Last I heard it was just a statement and not in an official faq, and if that's the case, 400 points is how I'll play.

Pain4Pleasure wrote:
Has that ever officcially been faq? Last I heard it was just a statement and not in an official faq, and if that's the case, 400 points is how I'll play.

The typo is in the update is the problem. For unknown reasons they haven't corrected it.
A quick email will get you the correct value (unlike GW they do respond).

But playing a value you know to be wrong is pretty low. The correct value is easy to find, be a sportsman and find it

^+1
Would fall under the definition of cheating, I believe.

 Mojo1jojo wrote:
I would loss MEK guns, don't really need them when you got a stompa, plus they are an easy first blood for any deeps tricking army especially if the are going first

Agreed. Stompa beats Mek guns pretty easily.

BossMakk wrote:
^+1
Would fall under the definition of cheating, I believe.

In all honesty it isn't cheating they could easily release a faq. Why should I have to email about something that's in the book that others can't believe is the price of a model? The company is to lazy to faq, I'm to sleazy to inquire where I shouldn't have too, there fore I will follow my rulebook. not cheating.

Pain4Pleasure wrote:

BossMakk wrote:
^+1
Would fall under the definition of cheating, I believe.

In all honesty it isn't cheating they could easily release a faq. Why should I have to email about something that's in the book that others can't believe is the price of a model? The company is to lazy to faq, I'm to sleazy to inquire where I shouldn't have too, there fore I will follow my rulebook. not cheating.

So you'll deliberately avoid finding the correct value in order to take advantage of a typo?

Yeah that is low. Your opponents have my sympathy.

What ever made someone assume 400 points wasn't the correct amount? Someone who cried cause they thought 400 for that amazing model wasn't enough points and emailed hoping to find closure?

Pain4Pleasure wrote:
What ever made someone assume 400 points wasn't the correct amount? Someone who cried cause they thought 400 for that amazing model wasn't enough points and emailed hoping to find closure?

Because in IA:8 he was given a Kustom Stompa.

Cost is correct for a Kustom Stompa before upgrades. Dread Mob changed it to a Big Mek Stompa, but without adjusting cost.

You really think any character would grant a 400pt discount on a Super Heavy? Honestly?

Yeah, textbook cheating.
Thats cool though. I don't have to live with it, and I wont ever have to play you. Good luck with that funloving and fair gaming attitude.

BossMakk wrote:
Yeah, textbook cheating.
Thats cool though. I don't have to live with it, and I wont ever have to play you. Good luck with that funloving and fair gaming attitude.

. Have a very fun gaming attitude and in fact am a pleasure to play with against my huge gaming group in my local area. For you to suggest otherwise is rude and bashing. I ask you please don't do that to another member.

Pain4Pleasure wrote:

BossMakk wrote:
Yeah, textbook cheating.
Thats cool though. I don't have to live with it, and I wont ever have to play you. Good luck with that funloving and fair gaming attitude.

. Have a very fun gaming attitude and in fact am a pleasure to play with against my huge gaming group in my local area. For you to suggest otherwise is rude and bashing. I ask you please don't do that to another member.

It's a bit hard to take the moral high-ground when you're talking about deliberately avoiding finding the correct points cost of a known typo, in order to gain a +400 point advantage over your opponent.

Big Mek Stompa is 800pts by itself.
Getting that plus Buzzgob for only 400pts, by deliberately not looking into the correct value when you know it's wrong, is hardly a "fun gaming attitude" is it?

Considering I've only ever run him once, and considering it was before viewing this thread and hearing about a faq non faq whatever it is, yes. I'd consider it a fun gaming attitude. I'm simply arguing that if anyone wanted to play it at 400 points, and you couldn't show a faq or rulebook with it for anything else. You would, rules wise, have no arguement. This is true.

Considering I didn't bash, merely commented of definitions of things, and in fact said good luck. So you have no argument.

best of luck to you

Wrote forge world... Recieved response to use the points cost used in the dread mob which is 400 points.

Yes, we get it. But it's plainly a mistake.

You could use what it plainly intended if you read IA8, which is to upgrade Buzzgob to his Kustom Stompa, then pay for the weapons.

You get a 50 point discount, It's still a bargain - 125 points for Gaze of Mork, Lifta Dropper and Krusha Ball. Buzzgob's stompa is also scoring (which will presumably be objective-secured in the new IA8).

WHat is the load-out of the Big Mek Stompa (which I guess is in Apocalypse)?

looking at the kustom mek stompa, it says structure points 4, im assuming this should now be 12 hull points? also, yes, it looks like the wrecking ball is for use in close combat in the assault phase

another question, im assuming the stompa can fire each weapons at different target? does that mean the co-axel weapons must fire at the same target?

Pain4Pleasure wrote:
Wrote forge world... Recieved response to use the points cost used in the dread mob which is 400 points.

Why make things up? Seriously?

Time zones alone put false to this claim. Replied within a hour of office opening times, yeah right.

 Tiny_Titan wrote:
another question, im assuming the stompa can fire each weapons at different target? does that mean the co-axel weapons must fire at the same target?

Yep, same target. But if you shoot the secondary weapon first the main one becomes Twin-linked.

How do I take a picture I'll gladly show the screenshot

never mind here. Don't claim I lied when I didn't. Makes you look dumb.