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Yeah that doesn't make sense. Like what are you asking if a formation unit can be joined by a IC , the answer is yes.

Can you join a IC to a formation unit that says no other models may join? No.

"a formation that is treated as one unit" sounds like the green tide. Perhaps he's asking if he's allowed to attach independent characters to the green tide? The answer to this would be "Yes, so long as the independent character comes from another detachment" I imagine he wants to add Grotsnik to the greentide for fearless and FnP

Unless the formation says no characters can join - absolutely you can. ICs can join any unit, and a formation that joins as a unit is still a unit.

If this is indeed a query about green tide, grotsnik isn't very good for a tide. Give the required warboss a big bosspole for fearless, attach another warboss with da lucky stick, and a normal painboy.

Grotsnik's like 200 points - the big bosspole + painboy is 70 for the same effect.

Grotsnik also gives rampage, but the odds of a green tide being able to utilize rampage is low, at best.

depends on the formation.

the necron one that is 2 crypteks and a c'tan for example cannot have other characters with the IC rule join it. As is called out in its rule 'conclave'

little bit of misinformation there from Krump
Grotsnik is 160
Warboss with big bosspole is 80
painboy is 50

Krump's right though, since the warboss is mandatory in the formation it makes the warboss painboy combo cheaper and better.

The Council of Waaagh! Formation is specific in that no other IC's can join it.

So as above, depends on the Formation in question.

As long as the formation does not forbid it, nor the IC rules forbid it, you can join.

I think its important to point out that an IC can only join a unit in a formation, not the formation itself. The benefits of being in the formation may apply to models in that formation, and thus would not effect the IC. This all assumes of course the formation has at least one unit the IC can join and does not have have any rule prohibiting such action.

That's not exactly true there are some rules that would carry over to the independent character like Preferred Enemy, Fearless, etc..

As well as stuff like " This unit may run and charge".

blaktoof wrote:
depends on the formation.

the necron one that is 2 crypteks and a c'tan for example cannot have other characters with the IC rule join it. As is called out in its rule 'conclave'

Aren't C'tan Shards MCs anyways? ICs can never join units containing MCs.

 Kriswall wrote:

blaktoof wrote:
depends on the formation.

the necron one that is 2 crypteks and a c'tan for example cannot have other characters with the IC rule join it. As is called out in its rule 'conclave'

Aren't C'tan Shards MCs anyways? ICs can never join units containing MCs.

There is a case of an IC MC being able to join others though (seriously, that Member of the 8 thing is dumb).