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Seeing that bleach is used pretty much to sanitize anything of everything would it effect say a horde of plague marines in any way? Perhaps at least against Nurgle Daemons or cultist

   
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Alluring Sorcerer of Slaanesh






Reading, UK

Nurgle would turn the Bleach against you!

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Weaponized bleach (chlorine gas) can be used against any living target. Won't do much against Daemons, unless it was also mixed with holy water, but it could be a feasible construction.

Here's the thing, though: Bleach is dangerous to human beings anyway. Drink bleach, it will probably kill you (and, if it doesn't, it will feth you up real, real bad). It has nothing to do with them being servants of the Plague God... bleach is a dangerous chemical when used improperly.

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Strike Cruiser Vladislav Volkov

I think if Nurgle could honestly be defeated by simple household chemicals, he wouldn't be much of a threat, would he?

   
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Confessor Of Sins




WA, USA

And bleach is all nice and good against your normal bugs and microbes. Not so much against warp-spawned disease.

Or to put it another way, would you expect bleach to stop a zombie?

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Bleach can kill the bacteria and viruses on an object's surface; it won't cure your of warp cancer once these agents gets inside a person's body, it would be too late (for bleach anyways).
   
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Confessor Of Sins




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Especially since the body underneath the surface is still a Space Marine, and they aren't exactly known for fragility.

 Ouze wrote:

Afterward, Curran killed a guy in the parking lot with a trident.
 
   
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Solahma






RVA

I can just imagine a chapter of pearly white SM springing into action with vicks vapour rub -- Clean Marines hooooo!

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 Manchu wrote:
I can just imagine a chapter of pearly white SM sprining into action with vicks vapour rub -- Clean Marines hooooo!


Well, think about what most Space Marines look like. White skin, bald male with obvious strength and power.


 Ouze wrote:

Afterward, Curran killed a guy in the parking lot with a trident.
 
   
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RVA

You nailed it curran12, you absolutely nailed it.

Maybe their helmets look like this?


   
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WA, USA

Mk 11 "Scrubbing Bubbles" armor.

 Ouze wrote:

Afterward, Curran killed a guy in the parking lot with a trident.
 
   
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Move over GrimDark, we'll make M41 SparkleBright!

   
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Confessor Of Sins




WA, USA

Clean Marine Terminator spotted!


 Ouze wrote:

Afterward, Curran killed a guy in the parking lot with a trident.
 
   
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller




Strike Cruiser Vladislav Volkov

Oh jeez. Imagine a Nurgle warband obsessed with cleanliness.

   
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Solahma






RVA

The Hypochondriacs.

   
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This really made me laugh.

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59 out of 60 expert inquisitors agree it's the best product for dealing with those pesky nurgle stains.


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Its never explained what the Banewolfs chemical mixture is.....

But it works and defiantly gets heretical and xeno stains out....

The malcador infernus with chem ammo is best for larger scale cleaning..


If only there was a Baneblade with a giant chem cannon and multiple chem sprayers.....

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Bleach can kill the bacteria and viruses on an object's surface; it won't cure your of warp cancer once these agents gets inside a person's body, it would be too late (for bleach anyways).
Radiation, bleach, etc, is going to damage or kill cells. That includes cancer cells, damaged cells, healthy cells, etc.* The reason that bleach kills bacteria isn't because bleach is a sophisticated medicine that kills all bacteria infections - it's because bleach kills everything, including bacteria, fungi, etc. Pumping two litres of thick bleach into a plague-infested monster might kill it, but that would be because pumping two litres of thick bleach into anything is going to kill it, not because plague-infested monsters are especially vulnerable to bleach.

So, yes, you could try to drop several hundred gallons of bleach onto a hoard of Nurgle daemons. It might kill some Nurglings. However, you could also try using industrial acid, boiling oil, holy water, napalm, ortillery (the Navy comes in handy), frickin' laser beams (lasguns), ICBMs, battle rifles that spew rocket-propelled mini grenades (boltguns), automatic cannon, etc. There are even reports of Ordo Malleus agents employing proton-beam weapons to great effect, especially when they "cross the streams". **

* Think of cancer treatment - the trick is making sure that as much of the damage as possible is done to the cancer cells instead of the healthy cells. Radiotherapy involves using multiple beams (or one moving beam) that converge on the cancer so that the cancer takes much of the damage, not the rest of the body. Chemotherapy involves using a drug that disproportionally target rapidly dividing cells (e.g. cancer cells, the stuff in your bone marrow, and plenty of other cells).
** A technique first developed by Inquisitorial Operative Rill Burray in the campaign against the dreaded Stay Puft Marshmallow Daemon. For more details, view the Inquisitorial propaganda film "Ghostbusters".

Ok, I may have made some of that up...


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 j31c3n wrote:
I think if Nurgle could honestly be defeated by simple household chemicals, he wouldn't be much of a threat, would he?
Pre-Imperial history is filled with similar threats - some of the earliest-recorded xenos species could be wiped out through yodeling, using an Appple Powerbook to shut down their force-fields, or by anyone in scuba gear.

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UC Irvine

Somebody please make a Mr. Cleanmarine !
   
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SirSweetroll wrote:
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Kay... but I am too lazy to find Space Marine images for reference so here's a lazy photoshop piece of crap:

It will just have to suffice.

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Hull

Thing is, Bleach is a chemical and chemical warfare is still in Nurgle's ballpark. Hell, there are some Plaguemarine groups that are noted for chemical warfare, such as the Purge (they make use of biological warfare too but I'm just showing that chemicals are still in their domain).

Whilst Bleach could help defend against infectious agents, it's not like it's going to actually harm Plaguemarines or Nurgle's forces. It's more of a defensive weapon... a Bleach moat etc. so clean them before they get to you

   
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I can see the new range of household cleaning products:

Dettol - Kills 99.9% of Nurglings

Toilet Duck 4in1 - Stop the taint of Nurgle dead in it's tracks: Fresh fragrance, eliminates odours and removes greater unclean ones.

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