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Title says it all.

Read the codex?
Codex says it all.

Yes. And he's a Character, so can be your Warlord. You'll need to buy a Codex if you want to see the details.

I've always thought it a bit weird that you can get HQ Dreadnoughts to begin with. I know that Space Wolfs have Bjorn and Salamanders have Ashmantle as well but I don't consider them to have the linguistic skills in order to communicate commands while they are encased in their dreadnoughts.

However, yes, Librarian Dreadnoughts are now HQ units

 DarthOvious wrote:
I've always thought it a bit weird that you can get HQ Dreadnoughts to begin with. I know that Space Wolfs have Bjorn and Salamanders have Ashmantle as well but I don't consider them to have the linguistic skills in order to communicate commands while they are encased in their dreadnoughts.

However, yes, Librarian Dreadnoughts are now HQ units

You should read the Soul Drinkers books by Ben Counter. I don't want to spoil anything, but an extremely lucid Dreadnought is central to the plot (but doesn't appear until late in the series).

Sure, some Dreads are basically infants in giant robot suits, but others retain all of their mental faculties. Librarian Dreads are among the latter.

 Kriswall wrote:

 DarthOvious wrote:
I've always thought it a bit weird that you can get HQ Dreadnoughts to begin with. I know that Space Wolfs have Bjorn and Salamanders have Ashmantle as well but I don't consider them to have the linguistic skills in order to communicate commands while they are encased in their dreadnoughts.

However, yes, Librarian Dreadnoughts are now HQ units

You should read the Soul Drinkers books by Ben Counter. I don't want to spoil anything, but an extremely lucid Dreadnought is central to the plot (but doesn't appear until late in the series).

Sure, some Dreads are basically infants in giant robot suits, but others retain all of their mental faculties. Librarian Dreads are among the latter.

Interesting. It's probably just an impression I got when playing the Dawn of War games in regards to the robotic voices they attached to dreads when you built them or activated them.

Kaptin, buy the codex.

OK. I play 5th edition, and do not have access to the codex. Thanks all.

This forum isn't a replacement for the rulebook.

 KaptinBadrukk wrote:
OK. I play 5th edition, and do not have access to the codex. Thanks all.

If you have the internet, you have access to the Codex. You can go to www.games-workshop.com and buy it. If you play 5th Edition, you might want to stick with the older Codex. The new one was written for 7th Edition and will have rules in it that didn't exist in 5th (detachments, formations, Lords of War, etc.)

 Kriswall wrote:

 KaptinBadrukk wrote:
OK. I play 5th edition, and do not have access to the codex. Thanks all.

If you have the internet, you have access to the Codex. You can go to www.games-workshop.com and buy it. If you play 5th Edition, you might want to stick with the older Codex. The new one was written for 7th Edition and will have rules in it that didn't exist in 5th (detachments, formations, Lords of War, etc.)

OK. Thanks for letting me know.

 Kriswall wrote:
You should read the Soul Drinkers books by Ben Counter. .

Or, as an equally enjoyable alternative, you could gouge your own eyes out with a rusty spoon.



The point is valid, though... there are numerous examples in the fluff of quite lucid dreadnoughts.

 insaniak wrote:

 Kriswall wrote:
You should read the Soul Drinkers books by Ben Counter. .

Or, as an equally enjoyable alternative, you could gouge your own eyes out with a rusty spoon.



The point is valid, though... there are numerous examples in the fluff of quite lucid dreadnoughts.

Books are that bad?

The first one is. I never bothered with the others.


To be fair, the basic premise (Space Marines gradually led to Heresy through the machinations of Chaos without them realising it) is a good one... it was just done so ham-fistedly as to be utterly ridiculous, and the story as written relies on the main protagonist (a Chief Librarian, who would supposedly be somewhat guarded against Chaos's wiles) being an utter, utter idiot.

 KaptinBadrukk wrote:

 Kriswall wrote:

 KaptinBadrukk wrote:
OK. I play 5th edition, and do not have access to the codex. Thanks all.

If you have the internet, you have access to the Codex. You can go to www.games-workshop.com and buy it. If you play 5th Edition, you might want to stick with the older Codex. The new one was written for 7th Edition and will have rules in it that didn't exist in 5th (detachments, formations, Lords of War, etc.)

OK. Thanks for letting me know.

But for serous though Kaptin, why ask a question assuming people will help you? The obvious solution is to buy the codex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Even if you are just curious!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No reason as a hobby group we should share our collective experience when we can just tell you to buy a codex instead of help.

 insaniak wrote:
The first one is. I never bothered with the others.


To be fair, the basic premise (Space Marines gradually led to Heresy through the machinations of Chaos without them realising it) is a good one... it was just done so ham-fistedly as to be utterly ridiculous, and the story as written relies on the main protagonist (a Chief Librarian, who would supposedly be somewhat guarded against Chaos's wiles) being an utter, utter idiot.

The first one is mediocre at best. They get much better as the series goes along. And it's not really Chaos that leads them astray...