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Alrighty everyone. I need your help. In the fluff, my second regiment is a Superheavy tank regiment specializing in urban warfare. Right now, I have one company of Baneblades, one company of Stormswords, and one Stormhammer regimental command vehicle.
What superheavy tank type would be the most fluffy for my regiment's 3rd company?

I voted other. As you already have a bunch of Baneblade based tanks, I would go for some Macharius tanks.

I considered that, but none of them seemed terribly well suited to urban combat. The Malcador Defender, with its building-shattering Demolisher and all-around defense seemed more well suited out of all the "lesser" superheavies.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
I voted other. As you already have a bunch of Baneblade based tanks, I would go for some Macharius tanks.

I agree. A Macharius Vulcan fits the fluff as a good urban street sweeper.

 Crabbit wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
I voted other. As you already have a bunch of Baneblade based tanks, I would go for some Macharius tanks.

I agree. A Macharius Vulcan fits the fluff as a good urban street sweeper.

I third this. I would get a Macharius just to have some variety in my army more than anything else. Plus they are awesome looking tanks.

 Crabbit wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
I voted other. As you already have a bunch of Baneblade based tanks, I would go for some Macharius tanks.

I agree. A Macharius Vulcan fits the fluff as a good urban street sweeper.

Hmm. The Vulcan would be the best of the four. I just can't imagine how it would handle high-elevation targets in the upper floors of buildings. Most other tanks have some sort of siege cannon for just flattening said building. What is the gun elevation on the Macharius Vulcan like?

I can imagine the Vulcan can elevate its megabolter if needed. How much is unknown but for a number I would say maybe 20* upwards. I just imagine this beam of red hot shells raking the upper floors of a building.

Anything on the ground would just be swept away.



That or perhaps the Stormlord, carrying troops to take the ground or for the extra firepower and of course having the Mega Bolter.

The problem with Armored Transports is that I imagine they would be attached to infantry formations like constantly.
Do you think that an Independent Heavy Tank unit would maintain control of the Armored Transports rather than attaching them away.

Malcador Defender.

Coolest IG tank in existence.

Malcador Infernus? Smoke e'm out

And the Shadowsword would no doubt be able to demolish building with ease, without having to go in the city itself.

I would say at least a stormlord as well, like maybe your 3rd is a support company, and the stormlord could transport additional tech-enginseers and servitors, "spare" crewmen to replace any losses in the main crews, and probably quite a few veterans equipped for CQB fighting, for example to sweep places the tanks cannot get to and / or flatten, such as sewers, nothing worse than somebody below you being able to sneak up and plant explosives underneath your tank, stuff like that.

That and repair vehicles and / or anti-air support, I can't imagine a super-heavy company wandering around without anti-air... and actually the stormlord can be good at that with its volume of fire, plus it's great at removing pesky heavy infantry your baneblades / shadowswords can't be bothered to target, leaving them to deal with higher value targets.

 Unit1126PLL wrote:

 Crabbit wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
I voted other. As you already have a bunch of Baneblade based tanks, I would go for some Macharius tanks.

I agree. A Macharius Vulcan fits the fluff as a good urban street sweeper.

Hmm. The Vulcan would be the best of the four. I just can't imagine how it would handle high-elevation targets in the upper floors of buildings. Most other tanks have some sort of siege cannon for just flattening said building. What is the gun elevation on the Macharius Vulcan like?

Ehh, most of GW's tanks have little to no elevation capabilities for their guns. GW just doesn't concern itself with designing their vehicle kits for actual functionality beyond looking cool.

Another possibility could be the Praetor.

Hm, all of these are good ideas. I have 3 Hydras and a Manticore (with Sky Eagle missiles) for Air Defense, and I figured that'd be a demi-company (4-5 tanks) attached from an Air Defense Regiment.

As for the Support Company, I actually own quite a large Mechanicum army with a very heavy focus on Enginseers (at least one of my HQs is always a Macrotek), so I attach units from there. I don't include it in my TO&E though because they're Mechanicum and largely independent from my SHTR's command structure. Should this change?

The Malcadors, usually being "second-line" tanks, would certainly be in my regiment but I would guess the 5th or 6th company - less of a "line" company and more of a "replacements" company, if you will. Is the company formation for Malcadors the same as Baneblades, i.e. 3 tanks per?

You guys aren't helping, I'm still torn.

Many people in my local area seem to like the Hellhammer idea, but the Stormsword is the same thing but more useful in my eyes - I have no idea why but I like the ISU-152 look of the Stormsword more.

The Praetor kind of doesn't fit - I see that thing as more of an Air Defense Regiment / Artillery regiment thing. I certainly could attach one or more, but it wouldn't be a Line Company (and I want to build those first).

It's also worth noting that we houserule here that 30K and 40K are compatible, if that helps anyone's decision making. I want to stay away from the SM superheavies though for fluff reasons.

I would personally recommend a Malcador Infernus, nothing says urban combat like burning the city down.

However if you want a baneblade variant then the stormlord would fit an urban environment reasonably well as it can move up with it's own support fire and unload it's troops to take any hard target (or the troops inside could just shoot a bunch of lascannons at it, your choice).

An infernus would be good, yesss - what about the Chem ability? Should I just stick to fire?

As for the Stormlord, I am hesitant to include superheavy transports - I feel they would get assigned to infantry regiments, rather than infantry units being assigned to them.

Malcador Infernus, or possibly a Baneblade variant with an Inferno Gun modded on in place of the Baneblade Cannon (the Warhound weapon, not the Hellhound weapon).

Cleanse and burn

Infernus with Chem is absolutely amazing. It burns through entire sections of the opponent’s army. It also would make a lot of sense if your urban combat unit is trying to not burn the entire city down to the ground.

I think it is pretty common to assign Grunts to protect an important armoured asset entering an urban environment. It is too easy to ambush tanks due to them being restricted to wide roads or forced to clear a path. The stormlord also doesn't have to transport regular infantry. It can also take vets, ratlings, etc. Though honestly hws are perhaps the best. Heavy weapon servitors can also be quite effective.

Hmm. I think the Malcador Infernus is a spectacular idea, but the expense involved is prohibitive...

Yet you buy other superheavies frivously?

Well, my local store gives a discount for fluffy armies, as long as you finish painting the last model you bought there before you buy the next one.

But I don't get infernuses through the store...

So I've learned that any of the Malcador or Macharius variants are probably not going to be mixed into a Baneblade-chassis regiment without extenuating circumstances.

I suppose I will just go with another 3 Baneblade tanks. - the Hellhammer just doesn't do it for me.

Though the Shadowsword came in second in the poll, I am uncertain that an urban regiment would bring them - the Stormsword is a dedicated urban assault tank, whereas the Shadowsword is a tank hunter. Hm.