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Well, this is it - the dawn of a new age.

Freed from the shackles of Brussels, and with an extra £350 million a week to spend on the NHS, blue passports, and straight bananas...

Let the good times roll


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Herzlos wrote:
Yeah it's been rejected again by Westminster, at least in a "not until Brexit is done" which is their party line.

However, can May make a Brexit deal involving Scotland, if Scotland is then going to pull out of the UK afterwards? Would the EU agree to that? Is she hoping that Scotland will be bound by any agreements that the UK makes with the EU?


It would be funny if Tusk returned the letter to Sir Tm Barrow and said now is not the time

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UK

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Well, this is it - the dawn of a new age.

Freed from the shackles of Brussels, and with an extra £350 million a week to spend on the NHS, blue passports, and straight bananas...

Let the good times roll


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Herzlos wrote:
Yeah it's been rejected again by Westminster, at least in a "not until Brexit is done" which is their party line.

However, can May make a Brexit deal involving Scotland, if Scotland is then going to pull out of the UK afterwards? Would the EU agree to that? Is she hoping that Scotland will be bound by any agreements that the UK makes with the EU?


It would be funny if Tusk returned the letter to Sir Tm Barrow and said now is not the time


Yeah, fething hilarious.

"All their ferocity was turned outwards, against enemies of the State, foreigners, traitors, saboteurs, thought-criminals" - Orwell, 1984 
   
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 r_squared wrote:
 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Well, this is it - the dawn of a new age.

Freed from the shackles of Brussels, and with an extra £350 million a week to spend on the NHS, blue passports, and straight bananas...

Let the good times roll


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Herzlos wrote:
Yeah it's been rejected again by Westminster, at least in a "not until Brexit is done" which is their party line.

However, can May make a Brexit deal involving Scotland, if Scotland is then going to pull out of the UK afterwards? Would the EU agree to that? Is she hoping that Scotland will be bound by any agreements that the UK makes with the EU?


It would be funny if Tusk returned the letter to Sir Tm Barrow and said now is not the time


Yeah, fething hilarious.


Ultimately, there is nothing you or I can do about it.

May as well try and be light hearted about it IMO

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deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd 
   
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Hamburg

Today, Brexit day?
Leaving the largest single marked in the world to step into a world of great bilateral deals.
It appears that the EU will present to UK a bill about 60 billion Euro. That's a lot.

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Frostgrave

And that's the letter handed over, we're leaving. Fethers.

Now that the trigger has been pulled, I wonder what else they'll back track on?

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1. Westminster rejects Scottish Independence 2: EU Boogaloo
2. UK leaves EU
3. EU continues to have countries leave it
4. EU collapses
5. Scotland leaves UK after being denied the second referendum but has no EU to join
6. Delicious freedom

Soon Scotland be free of the Sassenach oppressors.


 wuestenfux wrote:
Today, Brexit day?
Leaving the largest single marked in the world to step into a world of great bilateral deals.
It appears that the EU will present to UK a bill about 60 billion Euro. That's a lot.


>Gerry in charge of what is good for Europeans

Do we really need to do this for a third time?

   
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UK

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
 r_squared wrote:
 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Well, this is it - the dawn of a new age.

Freed from the shackles of Brussels, and with an extra £350 million a week to spend on the NHS, blue passports, and straight bananas...

Let the good times roll


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Herzlos wrote:
Yeah it's been rejected again by Westminster, at least in a "not until Brexit is done" which is their party line.

However, can May make a Brexit deal involving Scotland, if Scotland is then going to pull out of the UK afterwards? Would the EU agree to that? Is she hoping that Scotland will be bound by any agreements that the UK makes with the EU?


It would be funny if Tusk returned the letter to Sir Tm Barrow and said now is not the time


Yeah, fething hilarious.


Ultimately, there is nothing you or I can do about it.

May as well try and be light hearted about it IMO


Afraid that's not going to happen. I'm viewing this as a subject that is not really deserving of a "light-hearted" disposition.

The only thing that would be mildly amusing is if Donald Tusk sent the letter back with a post it note on the front saying, "come back when you've sorted out who we're actually dealing with."

But even then it wouldn't raise a smile on my face.

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Herzlos wrote:
And that's the letter handed over, we're leaving. Fethers.

Now that the trigger has been pulled, I wonder what else they'll back track on?


My elderly father is happy. He's looking forward to New Zealand butter and lamb coming back.

He's also hoping for the belt to be re-introduced to schools and the gallows coming back to our prisons...

Yes, he is a bit reactionary that way...

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TRIGGERING ARTICLE 50.


CRASHING THIS POLITICAL UNION. WITH NO SURVIVORS

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 r_squared wrote:
 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
 r_squared wrote:
 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Well, this is it - the dawn of a new age.

Freed from the shackles of Brussels, and with an extra £350 million a week to spend on the NHS, blue passports, and straight bananas...

Let the good times roll


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Herzlos wrote:
Yeah it's been rejected again by Westminster, at least in a "not until Brexit is done" which is their party line.

However, can May make a Brexit deal involving Scotland, if Scotland is then going to pull out of the UK afterwards? Would the EU agree to that? Is she hoping that Scotland will be bound by any agreements that the UK makes with the EU?


It would be funny if Tusk returned the letter to Sir Tm Barrow and said now is not the time


Yeah, fething hilarious.


Ultimately, there is nothing you or I can do about it.

May as well try and be light hearted about it IMO


Afraid that's not going to happen. I'm viewing this as a subject that is not really deserving of a "light-hearted" disposition.

The only thing that would be mildly amusing is if Donald Tusk sent the letter back with a post it note on the front saying, "come back when you've sorted out who we're actually dealing with."

But even then it wouldn't raise a smile on my face.


Apologies If I'm mistaking you for somebody else, but did you not mention you had the Irish passport option? That's a plan B I suppose if Brexit goes belly up.

With another Scottish independence referendum on the way, I suppose I have a potential plan B as well.

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Frostgrave

 r_squared wrote:

Afraid that's not going to happen. I'm viewing this as a subject that is not really deserving of a "light-hearted" disposition.


We're completely gakked anyway, so we may as well have a laugh about it whilst trying to figure out what we're supposed to try and do next.
   
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Herzlos wrote:
 r_squared wrote:

Afraid that's not going to happen. I'm viewing this as a subject that is not really deserving of a "light-hearted" disposition.


We're completely gakked anyway, so we may as well have a laugh about it whilst trying to figure out what we're supposed to try and do next.


Leave. Flee the country. It's what I'm doing. I'm marrying my Norwegian lady and moving out. I'll be watching ya'll from the top of the world when whatever may does eventually come.
   
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Frostgrave

I'm not leaving quite yet; I'm in Scotland so there's a chance we'll leave anyway, and failing that I can still move to Europe (Spain/German/Denmark) before my kids start school.

I quite like it here though, so it'd be good if I didn't have to move.
   
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But hey. Don't worry lads.

When it all goes belly up, at least Nigel 'it's all immigrants fault' Farage is...erm....going to emigrate.

I vote we nail his feet to the floor so that can't happen. Odious little toad of a man.

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 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Spoiler:
 r_squared wrote:
 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
 r_squared wrote:
 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Well, this is it - the dawn of a new age.

Freed from the shackles of Brussels, and with an extra £350 million a week to spend on the NHS, blue passports, and straight bananas...

Let the good times roll


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Herzlos wrote:
Yeah it's been rejected again by Westminster, at least in a "not until Brexit is done" which is their party line.

However, can May make a Brexit deal involving Scotland, if Scotland is then going to pull out of the UK afterwards? Would the EU agree to that? Is she hoping that Scotland will be bound by any agreements that the UK makes with the EU?


It would be funny if Tusk returned the letter to Sir Tm Barrow and said now is not the time


Yeah, fething hilarious.


Ultimately, there is nothing you or I can do about it.

May as well try and be light hearted about it IMO


Afraid that's not going to happen. I'm viewing this as a subject that is not really deserving of a "light-hearted" disposition.

The only thing that would be mildly amusing is if Donald Tusk sent the letter back with a post it note on the front saying, "come back when you've sorted out who we're actually dealing with."

But even then it wouldn't raise a smile on my face.


Apologies If I'm mistaking you for somebody else, but did you not mention you had the Irish passport option? That's a plan B I suppose if Brexit goes belly up.

With another Scottish independence referendum on the way, I suppose I have a potential plan B as well.


No, you're right, it is me. I've already started putting things in place, and getting our affairs sorted out, and put out a couple of feelers for job options elsewhere. By the time the UK actually leaves, we'll be ready to make our final decision whether or not to tough it out, or participate in our own small, personal British Exit.

If May manages to pull off a miracle situation whereby we keep the benefits of the EU, then we'll probably hang about. If not, then we'll see.

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Well, whatever happens, this is obviously a historic day, so God knows what will happen.

Best of luck to everybody whatever you chose to do.

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Maybe a stupid question, but you guys have your next election in 2020. I get the plan is to leave in two years (so 2019-2020). But what would happen if it (inevitably) takes longer and an anti-brexit government comes to power? Could they sabotage it? What would the effects of that be?

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UK

Well here we go.

Suppose I best learn a new language just in case.

It sucks having no foreign relatives, the closest I had was a German/Ukrainian godmother and she died a few years ago so I'l have to go through the whole process.

That German girl on my uni course just became a ten to a lot of students

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-stop-article-50-leave-eu-politicans-donald-tusk-philippe-lamberts-michel-barnier-european-a7655166.html

From the Independent, so eh, but apparently Brexit can be stopped after Article 50 is triggered. Wouldn't pay too much attention to it though, because May going against what the referendum said is going to get her the boot come 2020.

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 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Maybe a stupid question, but you guys have your next election in 2020. I get the plan is to leave in two years (so 2019-2020). But what would happen if it (inevitably) takes longer and an anti-brexit government comes to power? Could they sabotage it? What would the effects of that be?


There's very little stopping us rejoining the EU in the future.

And it seems Article 50 isn't irrevocable.

But what would happen?

I imagine Nigel Farage would explode.

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 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Maybe a stupid question, but you guys have your next election in 2020. I get the plan is to leave in two years (so 2019-2020). But what would happen if it (inevitably) takes longer and an anti-brexit government comes to power? Could they sabotage it? What would the effects of that be?


Logically, Article 50 has to be irreversible, otherwise, every EU member would use the threat of it to shake down more concessions from the other members.

If no deal is struck, we leave on WTO trade terms.

The chances of a anti-Brexit government being elected are extremely remote, as the opposition parties in Britain make Trump look like FDR

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UK

An Anti-Brexit government would probably still leave the UK anyway, otherwise they would probably get the boot come 2025, unless they made extremely beneficial progress for the UK in terms of immigration (which was the concern of a majority of Leave voters).

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Frostgrave

They are going to be disappointed about that anyway, even the pro-brexit government have said immigration numbers will likely go up.
   
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Hamburg

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Maybe a stupid question, but you guys have your next election in 2020. I get the plan is to leave in two years (so 2019-2020). But what would happen if it (inevitably) takes longer and an anti-brexit government comes to power? Could they sabotage it? What would the effects of that be?


Logically, Article 50 has to be irreversible, otherwise, every EU member would use the threat of it to shake down more concessions from the other members.

If no deal is struck, we leave on WTO trade terms.

The chances of a anti-Brexit government being elected are extremely remote, as the opposition parties in Britain make Trump look like FDR

EU officials already said that the Brexit should be deterrent to potential followers.

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 wuestenfux wrote:
 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Maybe a stupid question, but you guys have your next election in 2020. I get the plan is to leave in two years (so 2019-2020). But what would happen if it (inevitably) takes longer and an anti-brexit government comes to power? Could they sabotage it? What would the effects of that be?


Logically, Article 50 has to be irreversible, otherwise, every EU member would use the threat of it to shake down more concessions from the other members.

If no deal is struck, we leave on WTO trade terms.

The chances of a anti-Brexit government being elected are extremely remote, as the opposition parties in Britain make Trump look like FDR

EU officials already said that the Brexit should be deterrent to potential followers.


So basically making it so difficult that nobody is allowed to leave? If your club is that great why do you need to treat your member states like enemies?

This sounds great in the mind of a EU-rophile...

   
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Hamburg



So basically making it so difficult that nobody is allowed to leave? If your club is that great why do you need to treat your member states like enemies?

This sounds great in the mind of a EU-rophile...

This seems to be the basic strategy of the EU officials participating in the Brexit negotiations. Potential follows should see that staying is better than leaving.

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I turned on BBC news and was confronted by the spectacle of a half-cut Nigel Farage, sitting in a Westminster pub, pint glass in hand, banging on about German car companies!

God almighty, is this Britain's future?

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UK

Well...the alternative is to give the UK an extremely beneficial deal so that it does better outside the EU.

"Oh, look, the UK is doing better without us than with us! Ain't no way the other countries are going to want to follow suit!"

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Frostgrave

 Medium of Death wrote:

EU officials already said that the Brexit should be deterrent to potential followers.


So basically making it so difficult that nobody is allowed to leave? If your club is that great why do you need to treat your member states like enemies?

This sounds great in the mind of a EU-rophile...


It has to be better to be inside the EU than outside, otherwise everyone else would leave. I don't think they'll be too difficult with us, won't punish us, but also won't be able to give us a better deal than we already had.

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Hamburg

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
I turned on BBC news and was confronted by the spectacle of a half-cut Nigel Farage, sitting in a Westminster pub, pint glass in hand, banging on about German car companies!


I guess he's driving a German car. No?

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 Medium of Death wrote:
 wuestenfux wrote:
 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Maybe a stupid question, but you guys have your next election in 2020. I get the plan is to leave in two years (so 2019-2020). But what would happen if it (inevitably) takes longer and an anti-brexit government comes to power? Could they sabotage it? What would the effects of that be?


Logically, Article 50 has to be irreversible, otherwise, every EU member would use the threat of it to shake down more concessions from the other members.

If no deal is struck, we leave on WTO trade terms.

The chances of a anti-Brexit government being elected are extremely remote, as the opposition parties in Britain make Trump look like FDR

EU officials already said that the Brexit should be deterrent to potential followers.


So basically making it so difficult that nobody is allowed to leave? If your club is that great why do you need to treat your member states like enemies?

This sounds great in the mind of a EU-rophile...


Deterrent as in we'll make sure the UK bears the full cost of Brexit so prospective leavers know the real cost of leaving.

So no sweetheart deals or special relationships.
   
 
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