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I'm going to give him the crescendo of course. But what melee weapon should he get? powersprd? storied sword? caress? cegorach's rose?

 JP Hatecraft wrote:
I'm going to give him the crescendo of course. But what melee weapon should he get? powersprd? storied sword? caress? cegorach's rose?

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5th post from bottom, spoilered math. PS does most dmg, but least efficient option. If you're willing to put 25 points on a TM, then run starmist rainment to tank overwatch with. After that Caress > Kiss > embrace for TM.

I'm willing to put the 25pts... but isn't Crescendo a good idea on the TM?

Crescendo is by no means bad, in fact it's great for it's points. But I've been lead to believe a single model can only carry a single relic, and the Starmist 3++ is much more important.

For my TM i always take the power sword and never feel bad for it. 5 Ws 6 Str 4 AP 3 attacks at initiative ''Higher-than-you'' will mince any would be MEQ champion or slice up 2/3 Marines. The reliability is important, because I've had a turn were entire troupes of Caresses haven't rolled a single 6 to hit, and knowing you can rely on the TM for damage output is nice to know. Just make sure to kit out the troupe to go after reasonable targets, E.G not Terminators or Dreadknights.

The other option i'd like to try out is Cegorarch's Rose, because it is almost assuredly a dead champion. As i said, reliability, and the Rose is a dead model almost every time (3+ to hit mastercrafted, 2+ to wound shred) So if your not willing to fork out for the PS or don't want the Troupe Leader to dictate what units you fight, take the Rose.

My troupe masters are A) powers word, B) caress and crescendo, and C) a neurodisruptor. Warlord has the sword, the star mist raiment normally goes on my heroes path shadowseer so he can hide after psychic shrieking the snot outta somebody.

 ALEXisAWESOME wrote:
Crescendo is by no means bad, in fact it's great for it's points. But I've been lead to believe a single model can only carry a single relic, and the Starmist 3++ is much more important.

For my TM i always take the power sword and never feel bad for it. 5 Ws 6 Str 4 AP 3 attacks at initiative ''Higher-than-you'' will mince any would be MEQ champion or slice up 2/3 Marines. The reliability is important, because I've had a turn were entire troupes of Caresses haven't rolled a single 6 to hit, and knowing you can rely on the TM for damage output is nice to know. Just make sure to kit out the troupe to go after reasonable targets, E.G not Terminators or Dreadknights.

The other option i'd like to try out is Cegorarch's Rose, because it is almost assuredly a dead champion. As i said, reliability, and the Rose is a dead model almost every time (3+ to hit mastercrafted, 2+ to wound shred) So if your not willing to fork out for the PS or don't want the Troupe Leader to dictate what units you fight, take the Rose.

Pretty much all of this. You can only take a single relic per model so that's why I'd go Starmist on the WL, especially if you're running Ceg's Revenge (which, again, I wouldn't. Just saying "if"). Rose is a solid performer as well, but falls short against the Power Sword. 2.1 PS kills vs. 1.3 Rose kills vs MEQ. So Rose increases output vs. a standard kiss by .3 or so unsaved wounds. Again though, it's all about targets. If you need a MEQ lawnmower, then PS is clearly the right answer. If you want a TM that can stand up to challenges from non-dedicated CC champions sporting a 2+, Kiss/rose.

Given the differences in dmg output between really expensive weapons and generic Harlie weapons though, Starmist Rainment still probably needs to be your first TM wargear choice. 2 PS wounds vs. ~1.3 wounds for kiss/caress isn't going to be nearly as noticeable as making a 3++ against powerfists. If you ever make one 3++ save against a S6 attack, Starmist more than pays for itself (litterally, TM is 35 points). Alternately, weapons need to do quite a bit of work to justify their cost vs a normal Harlie weapon.