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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 21:07:35
Subject: Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Speaking of rednecks ignoring the Constitution:
http://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/bundy-s-stance-not-line-true-conservatism
Bundy’s stance not in line with true conservatism
By DAVID JENKINS
SPECIAL TO THE LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
Cliven Bundy and his fellow malcontents are back in the news, this time trying to rally support for Assembly Bill 408 that displays as much contempt for reality and the law as Bundy does himself.
Bundy’s radical claim, which he uses as an excuse to not pay the fees owed for grazing his cattle on publicly owned land, has been that the United States government has no authority to manage federal lands in Nevada. In fact, he has gone further, saying, “I don’t recognize the United States government as even existing.”
That is much the same sentiment embodied in AB408, sponsored by Assemblywoman — and Bundy ally — Michele Fiore. The bill, in obvious conflict with both the U.S. and Nevada Constitutions, asserts state ownership over all public lands, waters and minerals in Nevada. It would also prohibit the U.S. government from enforcing any laws or regulations within the state, and require counties to give away development rights.
Regardless of where one stands on public land policy, the self-serving and anarchistic radicalism of Bundy and his followers should be troubling to anyone who seeks a stable society and a strong nation.
Conservatism is the opposite of radicalism. It recognizes the importance of order, personal responsibility, values and the rule of law. Conservatism is also about freedom, but a conservative understands that freedom and responsibility go hand-in-hand. You cannot have one without the other.
Such concepts appear lost on Bundy. His entitlement mentality demands total freedom to do whatever he wants, but he rejects any corresponding obligation on his part.
Ranchers all across the West who graze cattle on federally managed public lands, willingly pay the below-cost grazing fees charged to reimburse taxpayers for the privilege. But Cliven Bundy believes that he is somehow entitled to graze cattle for free on land he does not own.
Not only is Bundy’s refusal to pay unfair to every rancher who holds a grazing permit, it robs each and every one of us — the taxpayers who own the land — of a return on our investment. Worse yet, Bundy’s position is a denial of legitimate property rights.
Last year, when he rallied others to his side and incited them to take up arms against the government, he was not fighting for some noble cause, he was merely trying to preserve his freeloading ways and defend his right to trespass.
Bundy is essentially asserting himself as the sole arbiter of whose property rights he recognizes, and whose he deems invalid. Whatever the reason or grievance, real or imagined, the only opinion that matters is his own. What then is to prevent him or any of his supporters from ignoring the property rights of a neighboring rancher, a business owner, a state or county?
Bundy is no champion of freedom; he is a bully who thinks himself above the law. Through his unwillingness to recognize law and the authority of the courts, he has rung up roughly $1 million in fees and fines over the past two decades.
Our founding fathers established this nation on the principle of ordered liberty. They also made it clear in the U.S. Constitution that federal law shall be the “supreme Law of the Land,” and that even a state’s constitution is subordinate to federal law. Bundy has no legitimate justification to ignore federal law and court orders, yet he does just that.
We live in a representative democracy, with a government that is of, by and for the people. We enjoy greater freedoms than the rest of the world, and we hold the means to change things we don’t like.
And while most Americans — especially conservatives — are imbued with love of country, patriotism and concern for the greater good, Bundy shows no such inclinations, only contempt for the United States and the Constitution. His hateful rhetoric boarders on sedition and exposes views akin to an 1860s secessionist.
If we all believed and behaved like Cliven Bundy, there would be no rule of law, no ordered liberty, and no United States of America.
David Jenkins is president of Conservatives for Responsible Stewardship.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 21:10:05
Subject: Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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can we nuke them? It's nevada, it's radioactive already.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 21:12:03
Subject: Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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I will allow my esteemed colleague to sum up my reaction after reading that
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 21:13:25
Subject: Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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But then where would i go for blackjack and hookers?
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 21:14:08
Subject: Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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They don't live near vegas.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 21:18:33
Subject: Re:Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Fall Out.....you forgot Fall Out...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 21:30:55
Subject: Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Yes please! Please nuke Nevada. Fallout New Vegas was awesome.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 21:37:34
Subject: Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Vegas must be preserved! If he doesn't recognize the US does that mean Putin can send in troops to assist "native Russians" there? Mr. Bundy there's a downside to not being part of a sovereign state, and that downside is the Russian guy without a shirt on top the T-80 in your front yard pointing its gun turret through the window at your face...
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 21:44:00
Subject: Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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Lets be fair, most people couldn't tell Un-Nuked Nevada from Nuked Nevada outside of Las Vegas or Reno
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IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 22:02:50
Subject: Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Frazzled wrote:
If he doesn't recognize the US does that mean Putin can send in troops to assist "native Russians" there? Mr. Bundy there's a downside to not being part of a sovereign state, and that downside is the Russian guy without a shirt on top the T-80 in your front yard pointing its gun turret through the window at your face...
Alaska is Russian land! We only gave it to the US by accident. Since we all seem to agree the US is not a real state now, let us take this opportunity to correct this little cartographic error. We must send some polite green men to protect ethnic Russians in Alaska from the fascists in Washington. Also... Does the US have any peninsulas with a nice warm climate that is perfect for holidays and strategic warm water ports?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 22:23:45
Subject: Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Deva Functionary
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Where is dusa to take the other side? Wieners cannot allow to run unoppos d.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 22:32:35
Subject: Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Laemos wrote:Where is dusa to take the other side? Wieners cannot allow to run unoppos d.
Simple solution: you don't recognize the US? Constitution doesn't recognize you! Nuke them and let everybody LARP Fallout New Vegas.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 22:39:28
Subject: Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
Greater Portland Petting Zoo
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Remove his citizenship, then classify him as an illegal immigrant and ship him off to some dirty, Godless, heathen hell hole. Like Canada, or something. Problem solved.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 22:54:39
Subject: Re:Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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He has to (Bundy) voluntary relinquish his US Citizenship before a Adjudication Officer or somethingorother. Why are after him to give up his Citizenship while we have a US Marine in Iran who relinquish his Iranian citizenship to become just an American citizen (was a dual citizen) stuck in a Iranian prison eh. Also like 700 US-Yemen citizens stuck in Yemen....like 200(?) ISIS fighters back in the US of A. Cruz citizenship trap....Bundy still has to file through US Judicial Court System right? Not like those Low Speed High Drag individuals in TX who started their own country within a country and issue all kinds of shenanigans that got all kinds of LEO of local, state and federal levels involve.
Put a Lien on his ranch and wait for him to die of Natural Cause. Bundy does not rate a Hellfire missile. You make Bundy kids suffer with the legal mayhem
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No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog
Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 23:47:31
Subject: Re:Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Remember guys - if you're a rancher and you pay your grazing fees, you're paying a little extra. Call it the "Bundy Tax", for the guys who found out if you threaten enough violence and point enough guns at federal employees, you too can not pay your share.
Truly he's an 'Murcan hero.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/06 23:56:47
Subject: Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Hallowed Canoness
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Vaktathi wrote:Lets be fair, most people couldn't tell Un-Nuked Nevada from Nuked Nevada outside of Las Vegas or Reno 
There's Nevada outside of Vegas or Reno?
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 00:01:28
Subject: Re:Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Ouze wrote:Remember guys - if you're a rancher and you pay your grazing fees, you're paying a little extra. Call it the "Bundy Tax", for the guys who found out if you threaten enough violence and point enough guns at federal employees, you too can not pay your share.
Truly he's an 'Murcan hero.
Think BOTH sides did that
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Harlequin 2500
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 00:08:38
Subject: Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Fixture of Dakka
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There is some seriously kick ass landscape in the Overton area.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 00:52:53
Subject: Re:Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 01:13:03
Subject: Re:Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Kind of wish the female pink butt stock was not in the way
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Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog
Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 01:19:52
Subject: Re:Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Hallowed Canoness
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Ouze wrote:Remember guys - if you're a rancher and you pay your grazing fees, you're paying a little extra. Call it the "Bundy Tax", for the guys who found out if you threaten enough violence and point enough guns at federal employees, you too can not pay your share.
Truly he's an 'Murcan hero.
Guns? Anti-government? Yeah, he seems very much a 'murican hero indeed  .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 01:28:00
Subject: Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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I still say they should have executed his cattle one by one and send him the heads in a package
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 01:29:48
Subject: Re:Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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That would be one way to deal with him.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 01:32:41
Subject: Re:Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Proud Member of the Infidels of OIF/OEF
No longer defending the US Military or US Gov't. Just going to ""**feed into your fears**"" with Duffel Blog
Did not fight my way up on top the food chain to become a Vegan...
Warning: Stupid Allergy
Once you pull the pin, Mr. Grenade is no longer your friend
DE 6700
Harlequin 2500
RIP Muhammad Ali.
Jihadin, Scorched Earth 791. Leader of the Pork Eating Crusader. Alpha
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 01:35:49
Subject: Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Hallowed Canoness
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Yeah, screw sending him the heads, send video tapes of a big ol'BBQ
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I beg of you sarge let me lead the charge when the battle lines are drawn
Lemme at least leave a good hoof beat they'll remember loud and long
SoB, IG, SM, SW, Nec, Cus, Tau, FoW Germans, Team Yankee Marines, Battletech Clan Wolf, Mercs
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 01:42:50
Subject: Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Well, we can send both, you don't eat the head
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 01:46:19
Subject: Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
Greater Portland Petting Zoo
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The hell you don't. The head has some of the best meat on the thing.  Send him the diddles. Some dicks for the dick, so to speak. EDIT: feth my inability to proofread.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 01:49:06
Subject: Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Barbacoa, cow tongue, head cheese, brains, glands,
So much delicious meat on a head.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 01:53:04
Subject: Clive Bundy doesn't reognize the US as Existing. Will an M1 tank tread recognize Clive Bundy?
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Ewwwwwwwwwwwww.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/07 01:54:53
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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Head cheese... ? Edit: Really though, why haven't they just arrested him.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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