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Obviously I will need to wait for official confirmation, but I wondered what the data community thought of being able to run IA13 units in a Daemonkin army. For example, Khorne decimator engines, Khorne contemptor dreads, brass scorpions and such, or legacies of ruin on tanks?

Edit: there seems to have been confusion as to what I was getting at so I'll clarify.

I'm asking people's opinions on how forge world might handle this issue. Whether they will ignore it all together, or update it to allow units from IA13 to be selected. If the latter is your opinion then which units would you suggest are acceptable.

KhorneKin is its own codex. All of the units in IA13 are for CSMs and Daemons. So no, by RAW you can't take FW units and rules in a KhorneKin army

If IA13 does not state they may be taken in a Khorne Daemonkin detachment then pretty clearly according to the rules they may not be taken in a Khorne Daemonkin detachment.

Discuss it with your opponents if you wish to house rule it otherwise.

What I think? Sure, I'd allow it in a game. As long as the obvious things are followed. Has to be dedicated to Khorne or be a Khorne specific vehicle for the appropriate costs. I wouldn't be good with a Storm Eagle or Sicaran, but your examples, yes. Legacies, prolly not because if I remember right, most of them are undivided or even Badab War ones, not Khorne specifically and rarely not Legion ones. The unit would have to say 'look how angry and bloody I am' for me to accept it easily.

I'm interested to know what Forge World is going to do about this and how soon they'll FAQ it in

The legacy of 1st war of armageddon is khorne specific, and Fantastic in a daemonkin army. But alas not available.

To the first two posters, I know those facts. I wasn't asking the facts. I was asking what people thought, and how they think forge world will approach it. If they do at all? It seems it would make sense to allow certain units to be selected. Hence I was asking people's opinions.

forge worlds approach is always "we encourage house rules".

Really this isn't a question for Dakka, but your local gaming groups.

An emauil response from FW quoted:
"As it stands our Imperial armour books, miniatures and their rules held within these supplements are not designed to be used alongside other supplement books such as the Daemonkin supplement or Tempestus Scions supplement by Games Workshop. They are designed to be an individual supplement for your chosen force’s main codex.
At the moment there is no firm “ruling” or “Do’s and Don’ts” but we at Forge World encourage the use of “house rules” so if you ask your opponents for permission to use Forge World miniatures in your Daemonkin Army and they are okay with it then boom! Got ya’ self some awesome Daemon force to be reckoned with."

My opinion is that it's unlikely that Forgeworld will issue an Errata anytime soon allowing this. They just have way too much to update first.

Realistically, you can just ask your opponents. Anything marked "Khorne XYZ" would probably be an easy sell.

Alternatively, just take an Allied Detachment, pay a minimal Khorne themed HQ/Troops tax and include whatever unit you want. Remember that Khorne Daemonkin and Chaos Space Marines are different Factions, so you can do the CAD/Allied Detachment thing with no issue.

Khaine's Wrath wrote:Edit: there seems to have been confusion as to what I was getting at so I'll clarify.

I'm asking people's opinions on how forge world might handle this issue. Whether they will ignore it all together, or update it to allow units from IA13 to be selected. If the latter is your opinion then which units would you suggest are acceptable.

Khaine's Wrath wrote:To the first two posters, I know those facts. I wasn't asking the facts. I was asking what people thought, and how they think forge world will approach it. If they do at all? It seems it would make sense to allow certain units to be selected. Hence I was asking people's opinions.

I'm certainly not wanting to be rude but given the nature of this specific discussion forum and its tenets, would this not be better located in perhaps 40K General or elsewhere if you don't want replies based on actual rules?

Yeah, you're probably right. Perhaps that's a mistake on my part. But this is YMDC, and I wanted the community to decide as to whether it is something they would allow.

Editing your initial post certainly helps either way, but yeah, I guess I see it as so clear cut a rules question it becomes explicitly a, "Do you reckon it'd be cool to allow..." kind of question. And YMDC being YMDC... well

If it says "Khorne" somewhere in it, I'd be down for it. I'd also say follow the same logic the Khorne daemonkin book does in that anything that can have a Khorne upgrade somehow must take it.

 SRSFACE wrote:
If it says "Khorne" somewhere in it, I'd be down for it. I'd also say follow the same logic the Khorne daemonkin book does in that anything that can have a Khorne upgrade somehow must take it.

exactly this.....

 Khaine's Wrath wrote:
Yeah, you're probably right. Perhaps that's a mistake on my part. But this is YMDC, and I wanted the community to decide as to whether it is something they would allow.

Typically, if you want to know "How it would be played", or what people think, you preface that in the Thread title and in your OP.

For example "How You Would Play It: Daemonkin and Legacies" or whatever. That keeps folks from YMDC'ing all over it.

I was told by someone who asked FW their answer was no.