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Killer Klaivex




Oceanside, CA

Interesting odds if distort weapons become Strength D.

Heavy Wraith cannon was S10 AP1. The new gun, just like the old, hits on a 3+. On a 1 or 2, the shot does nothing.
New cannon, after hitting, on a 1, it does nothing.
On a 2-5, it does D3 hull points, which you can take cover, invul or jink against.
On a 6, pick it up with no save of any kind.

If a venom doesn't jink (just 5+ invul)
A wraith cannon has a ~27% chance of single shotting a venom.
Firing both cannons, it's a 47% chance to kill a venom.

Oddly enough, old wraith cannons, wouldn't be all that different. S10 AP1 auto pens AV10, rolling 4+ to explode (+2 for AP1, +1 for open topped).
Odds of both S10 AP1 cannons killing a AV10 with 5+ invul is 40%.

Strength D is slightly better against AV10 skimmers, but only slightly so.

Strength D vs Grotesques isn't all the different either.
S10 and S-D both instant kill a T5 model, so the only change is the 1:6 chance to ignore cover.

The moral of the story is that if you're running AV10 or AV11, and T5 or less, you're not likely to notice the difference between S10 AP1 and Strength D Shooting.

-Matt



 thedarkavenger wrote:

So. I got a game with this list in. First game in at least 3-4 months.
 
   
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Junior Officer with Laspistol





London, Ontario

Whoopedy dooo for Dark Eldar. How many DE made it to the top of any recent tournament? DE / Orks make sudden rise in popularity!

Most armies have AV 12+ on a smattering of vehicles. Imperial Guard like their Russes. Many Marines like Predators or Vindicators. Others have MC that they will, you know, not want to be removed on 6's.

How's your army doing with 120 S:6 shots from Jetbikes?

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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk




Well, my bloodthirster heavy daemons army, imperial knights and armoured company of space marines weep at the thought of ranged D spam. Anyone running non-open topped vehicles are going to have a really lousy time as well.

The only lists not too afraid are green tide and as you've noticed, dark eldar. Anyone with a non-D LoW is screwed tho'.
   
Made in us
Killer Klaivex




Oceanside, CA

 greatbigtree wrote:
Whoopedy dooo for Dark Eldar. How many DE made it to the top of any recent tournament? DE / Orks make sudden rise in popularity!

Most armies have AV 12+ on a smattering of vehicles. Imperial Guard like their Russes. Many Marines like Predators or Vindicators. Others have MC that they will, you know, not want to be removed on 6's.

How's your army doing with 120 S:6 shots from Jetbikes?

Got a plan on the jet bikes already.
Double Realspace raiders
4x Archons with webways
8 medusa (4 units of 2)
4x5 warriors
6x3 bikes with caltrops
6x beast packs (1 master 2 khyemae)
4 Talos with injectors

Pretty much the same type of thing I do against tau.
Everything is either tough or disposable. Stuff that crowds away from the bikes and beasts tend to cluster up for the templates.

-Matt
   
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker




March

 greatbigtree wrote:

Most armies have AV 12+ on a smattering of vehicles. Imperial Guard like their Russes. Many Marines like Predators or Vindicators. Others have MC that they will, you know, not want to be removed on 6's.


Last I checked Wraithcannons were still removing those monstrous creatures on 6's
   
 
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