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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/17 18:11:40
Subject: Pods for skitarii rob them of their doctrina imperatives.
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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You have to use your doctrina imperative at the beginning of the movement phase, before reserves.
Pods come in after.
So you do not get the benefit of them for the reserves that came in that turn, correct?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/17 19:32:46
Subject: Re:Pods for skitarii rob them of their doctrina imperatives.
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Most players agree that reserves, including deep striking units, arrive at the start of the turn, before the beginning of the movement phase.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/18 03:57:12
Subject: Re:Pods for skitarii rob them of their doctrina imperatives.
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RAW they happen at the same time. Therefore, the controlling players decides which happens first as he has player priority. So the doctrines can have an effect on the arriving units.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/18 04:17:11
Subject: Re:Pods for skitarii rob them of their doctrina imperatives.
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Silyen wrote:RAW they happen at the same time. Therefore, the controlling players decides which happens first as he has player priority. So the doctrines can have an effect on the arriving units.
If they happen at the same time (beginning of the turn) then you wouldn't be able to use them ('Moving on From Reserves', first paragraph).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/18 04:39:40
Subject: Re:Pods for skitarii rob them of their doctrina imperatives.
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DJGietzen wrote:Most players agree that reserves, including deep striking units, arrive at the start of the turn, before the beginning of the movement phase.
What? In the Deep Strike rules it says: "in the Movement Phase during which they arrive..."
That says unequivocally that Deep Striking units arrive DURING the movement phase.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/18 05:42:16
Subject: Re:Pods for skitarii rob them of their doctrina imperatives.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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No it does not say anything unequivocally. It implies that the units have arrived in the movement phase and that can be proven to not always be the case. It is widely believed that the deep strike rule is in error in that statement, especially as it appears to be copied from 6th edition where a players turn began with the begging of the movement phase, but lets not derail this thead with a debate on when reserves arrive, as that already has its own thread going on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/18 07:28:48
Subject: Re:Pods for skitarii rob them of their doctrina imperatives.
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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yakface wrote: DJGietzen wrote:Most players agree that reserves, including deep striking units, arrive at the start of the turn, before the beginning of the movement phase.
What? In the Deep Strike rules it says: "in the Movement Phase during which they arrive..."
That says unequivocally that Deep Striking units arrive DURING the movement phase.
Please check the rulebook reserves clearly arrive at the Start of the Turn. That rule is taken out of context it is not discussing when reserves or DS reserves arrive but what they can do when they arrive. Automatically Appended Next Post: As for the thread DI happens at the start of the movement phase. All reserves have arrived by then so it works.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/18 12:47:08
Subject: Pods for skitarii rob them of their doctrina imperatives.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The doctrines are army wide buffs that you choose and not for an individual unit. It doesn't matter if the unit is on the table or not so the argument is moot.
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