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2015/04/28 21:19:41
Subject: Iran attacks US Aircraft Carrier......but it's only a Model
Iran has carried out a massive attack on a mock version of an American Nimitz-class aircraft carrier. Tehran wanted everyone to know about it—state TV broadcasted the military exercise live.
It’s a revealing look at Iranian naval assault tactics, involving several waves of ships backed by helicopters and shore-launched missiles. The timing isn’t a coincidence. The United States and Iran are deadlocked over a deal to curb Tehran’s nuclear program.
The Iranians built the giant, 1:1-scale mock-up of the carrier on top of a barge almost one year ago. Photos released from Iranian news agencies on Feb. 25 now show it as a smoldering wreck. The missiles Iran fired at it are very real.
But don’t panic. The exercise—known as Great Prophet 9—didn’t factor in American escort warships and warplanes responsible for defending real carriers. It was mostly just for show.
The exercise occurred near Larak Island near the Strait of Hormuz. On the island, Mohammad Ali Jafari—the chief of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards Corps—and the head of the conservative parliament watched from stands.
First, IRGC navy speedboats performed a mining operation to isolate the “carrier” and limit its maneuverability. Dozens of small speedboats—each armed with an M-08 contact mine—swarmed around the mock up. Iranian state television claimed “a vast area was mined in under 10 minutes.”
During the second phase, the speedboats attacked the giant ship with 107-millimeter rockets. These are small rockets, and likely couldn’t sink a warship the size of an aircraft carrier.
But Iran could intend this tactic as a means to disable critical self-defense systems, such as radars, Phalanx CIWS self-defense cannons and missile launchers.
Next, speedboats armed with small cruise missiles—likely Chinese-made C-704 anti-ship cruise missiles—attacked the ship. These fast speedboats fired a barrage of 12 cruise missiles toward the mock Nimitz.
The third phase included a barrage of heavy, shore-launched anti-ship missiles. Iran launched two cruise missiles and two ballistic missiles toward the barge in a coordinated attack.
From clockwise—the mock-up carrier. Remote-controlled suicide boat explodes against the ‘carrier.’ Iranian speedboats. At top—the mock-up burns. Iranian TV and state media photos The shore-launched cruise missiles were Iranian-made Noor missiles, copies of Chinese C-802 missiles produced under license. The ballistic missiles were Fateh-100 variants fitted with target-seeking infrared nose cameras. At least one of those missed its target.
The fourth phase was an unconventional attack … even by IRGC standards. A commercial Bell 206 helicopter fired a C-704K anti-ship cruise missile from between its skids.
The last phase involved ramming a remotely-controlled suicide boat packed with more than 1,000 kilograms of high explosives into the mock up.
Jafari directly threatened the U.S. Navy in an interview after the attack. He said that it only takes five minutes for IRGC missiles to sink American aircraft carriers. Five hundred speed boats made a parade in the Strait of Hormuz following the exercise.
But in a real encounter, it’s unlikely that such a scenario would succeed. To reach and flank a U.S. aircraft carrier—and mine the surrounding area—Iran’s speed boats would also have to fight past the flattop’s advanced escort warships.
Carriers don’t go anywhere without escorts. And that wasn’t part of the exercise.
Iran also didn’t provide any substantial air defenses for its own ships. A defending carrier is unlikely to sit idle when under attack. In a real battle, U.S. Marines with Mark V speedboats armed with Javelin anti-tank missiles could also provide a defense shield for the American fleet.
But the use of commercial helicopters is concerning. Iran’s military has worked on flying swarms of small aircraft for some time.
Another possibility is that Iran doesn’t intend to use helicopters in an actual attack on a carrier, but is broadcasting its ability to use helicopters against other targets—such as unprepared U.S. ships abroad, akin to the suicide-boat attack on the destroyer USS Cole more than 14 years ago.
Buy ‘America's First Clash with Iran: The Tanker War, 1987-88.’The question is—why practice attacking an American carrier right now? Simple. It was an impressive show of force aimed to affect ongoing nuclear talks with Washington.
From the negotiations in Geneva to a disastrous war in Syria, the Iranian regime’s plans to save its sinking economy and preserve its strategic ally in the Middle East are going down in flames.
U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry recently said the U.S. is ready to abandon negotiations aimed at limiting Iran’s nuclear program in exchange for lifting sanctions. Syrian troops are carrying out a desperate offensive to encircle Aleppo. At least 150 Syrian troops and an IRGC general have died in the offensive.
To have any hope of holding the U.S. to the negotiations, Tehran has to remind the world what could happen if talks break down.
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2015/04/28 21:26:42
Subject: Iran attacks US Aircraft Carrier......but it's only a Model
That just seems like an extraordinary waste of time and money, first to build the thing, and then to destroy it.
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2015/05/01 06:37:02
Subject: Re:Iran attacks US Aircraft Carrier......but it's only a Model
I see some countries take their wargaming more seriously than others.
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2015/05/01 10:43:12
Subject: Iran attacks US Aircraft Carrier......but it's only a Model
Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
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2015/05/01 10:57:24
Subject: Iran attacks US Aircraft Carrier......but it's only a Model
It's just a spectacle for the masses. I doubt it makes the US Navy worry, and any competent Iranian soldier probably sees through it too. Iraq has collapsed but after them Iran is the weakest player in the area. They know they can't shoot first, and it's doubtful they'd be capable of shooting back either if hit with the full power of one of those carrier groups.
2015/05/02 02:13:45
Subject: Iran attacks US Aircraft Carrier......but it's only a Model
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Tannhauser42 wrote: That just seems like an extraordinary waste of time and money, first to build the thing, and then to destroy it.
If you've actually succeeded in getting close enough to board a US carrier something has gone horribly wrong for the US navy and you've probably already won whatever that engagement was.
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Iran faked destroying a mock-up U.S. aircraft carrier, new satellite images reveal.
According to Bellingcat, new satellite images show that the mock-up of the USS Nimitz nuclear-powered aircraft carrier that Iran claimed to destroy back in February was actually towed back to port.
“New satellite imagery shows that Iran’s mock-up aircraft carrier was not destroyed during naval exercises but was towed back to Bandar Abbas,” the report said. “The 16 mock aircraft previously visible on handhelds and satellite imagery were nowhere to be found.” The report and corresponding satellite imagery showed the mock-up had sustained extensive damage.
Back in March of 2014, CNN first reported, citing satellite images, that Iran was busy constructing a mock-up of the USS Nimitz at the Bandar Abbas port. Unnamed U.S. military officials at the time dismissed the mock-up, comparing it to a Hollywood prop.
At first Iran claimed that the mock-up was being built for a movie being filmed in the country. However, during military drills held in February of this year, Iranian state-run media outlets claimed that the aircraft carrier had been destroyed.
“A mock aircraft carrier was destroyed by the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps missiles during the IRGC Navy's massive Payambar-e Azam 9 (The Great Prophet 9) wargames in the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz,” Fars News Agency, which is close to the IRGC, reported at the time.
“The model was built in real size and came under attack and was destroyed by missiles and rockets fired from tens of IRGC speedboats. Also a number of the IRGC cruise and two ballistic missiles were fired at the mock US aircraft carrier,” it added.
Video footage of the mock U.S. aircraft carrier coming under attack from Iranian missiles was aired extensively on Iranian state television. The footage did not show the aircraft carrier sinking, although many Western news outlets reported that it had been sunk.
Long before the February war games, Iran had built and sunk mock-ups of many other types of U.S. naval ships. For example, in May of 2014, Navy Rear Admiral Ali Fadavi, commander of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps’ Navy, told Fars News Agency that: “We have been making and sinking replicas of U.S. destroyers, frigates and warships for many years."
Fadavi also boasted at the time that Iran’s military is capable of sinking a U.S. naval ships in under a minute, and said, "We practice the same drills on replica aircraft carriers because sinking and destroying U.S. warships has, is and will be on our agenda."
Pentagon spokesman Col. Steve Warren dismissed Fadavi’s threats, joking to reporters that: "We are wholly unconcerned about the Iranians mockup of an American ship. My guess is you could sink the mock-up in 50 seconds."
U.S. naval ships, particularly aircraft carriers, boast significant air and missile defense to protect the huge capital investments.
Still, Iran’s targeting of replica U.S. naval vessels underscores its commitment to execute an anti-access/area-denial strategy towards the United States should Iran and America ever go to war. Although far less capable than any other countries like China, Iran’s A2/AD capabilities could still pose headaches to U.S. commanders in the Persian Gulf.
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2015/05/06 17:28:17
Subject: Re:Iran attacks US Aircraft Carrier......but it's only a Model
So... under the best hypothetical circumstances possible the Iranian navy could not sink a mock up of one of our warships?
Lol Iran. l2navy.
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