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Want to try out the quad-assassin formation in an 1850 BA list. The challenge here is to make a list that has synergy with the assassins, is decently competitive (at least to the standard of the lower half of the books,) uses only the BA codex/deathstorm/exterminatus (so no FW,) and can only have two more detachments after the assassins.

In case you're unsure, the assassin formation is 570 points.

My contender:
Baal strike force
Lv2 jump Libby warlord with veritas vitae
3x 5 man jump death co. 1 fist in each.
2x 5 man camo sniper squads
3x 10 man asm squads in drop pods. 2 are double melta/combi-melta, 1 is double flamer/double hand flamer.

General plan if you get turn 1 there would be to have the camo snipers be near the vindicaire in case they infiltrate or send a fast transport of guys straight at him. They can hold them off while he gets a few more shots off. Otherwise, they are just holding some backfield objectives.
The pod marines will come in to help draw fire away from the 3 closer-range assassins. On anything but purge the alien, each squad will combat squad into specials to go after specific targets, and non-specials to maybe live to charge.
DC will jump up the field or infiltrate if the Libby can roll up that trait with his 2 strategic traits.

If opponent hast turn 1, everything but the backfield snipers outflanks or deep strikes. Not as good, but better than giving them an extra turn of shots at the infiltrators.
If opponent seizes after you've infiltrated: GG.

So far that's the best I've come up with. Anyone else?


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No one on all of dakka can come up with anything better?

Unless the tittle says: "Decurion cheese spam" or "eldar rage tears D-cannons" - no one will help you. It's how the site is nowadays. Pretty elitist.
Lists need to be flavour of the month and they have to be cheap and no fun to play against. Once you have that recipe all put together, the beards will show up and high five you.

Edit: just take a look which lists have the most replies. Go into them and see what they talk about. Arguing over which one unit should use a 15point upgrade or not; but, they can't help you.
Good luck

Looks like a cool idea. I like your tactics behind it. Have you had a chance to try it out yet?

Eclipseone wrote:
Unless the tittle says: "Decurion cheese spam" or "eldar rage tears D-cannons" - no one will help you. It's how the site is nowadays. Pretty elitist.
Lists need to be flavour of the month and they have to be cheap and no fun to play against. Once you have that recipe all put together, the beards will show up and high five you.

Edit: just take a look which lists have the most replies. Go into them and see what they talk about. Arguing over which one unit should use a 15point upgrade or not; but, they can't help you.
Good luck

Posting this was a dick move on your part Eclipsone.

Back to the list.
Sound like a fun list. I was think about using the assassins in a game or two to see how they fair in battle. Let us know how it goes.

Gundor2 wrote:

Eclipseone wrote:
Unless the tittle says: "Decurion cheese spam" or "eldar rage tears D-cannons" - no one will help you. It's how the site is nowadays. Pretty elitist.
Lists need to be flavour of the month and they have to be cheap and no fun to play against. Once you have that recipe all put together, the beards will show up and high five you.

Edit: just take a look which lists have the most replies. Go into them and see what they talk about. Arguing over which one unit should use a 15point upgrade or not; but, they can't help you.
Good luck

Posting this was a dick move on your part Eclipsone.

Back to the list.
Sound like a fun list. I was think about using the assassins in a game or two to see how they fair in battle. Let us know how it goes.

Sorry not sorry. After I posted looks like some people decide to show up to help this gentleman. Good work bubba.

USMC BLOOD ANGEL wrote:
Looks like a cool idea. I like your tactics behind it. Have you had a chance to try it out yet?

Nay, I'm working on painting the assassins now (after spending a couple days playing the board game with peeps.)

I figure that the vindi, callidus, and culexus will all pull their weight or be reasonably hard to take down early, but the eversor stands out like a sore thumb with only t4 3 wounds a 4++ and fnp. He seems to be a very bad buy by himself.

This does look super fun. I always used to take the assassins with my BA back in the days of the Daemonhunters book. I would either get murdered immediately, or have all the assassins pull off completely unbelievable moves and take over the game.

Is the new game any good? The new minis look great.

rdlb wrote:
This does look super fun. I always used to take the assassins with my BA back in the days of the Daemonhunters book. I would either get murdered immediately, or have all the assassins pull off completely unbelievable moves and take over the game.

Is the new game any good? The new minis look great.

The game is pretty fun for about half a dozen plays or so if you can get some 4p co-op action going.

For fun times, be the callidus, run to the back ASAP, use polymorphine to go into disguise mode, and start exploring rooms and leaving cultists un-killed. Your group will be glaring at you. XD

But I like the metal gear feel to it. Move into a room, see a cultist, kill a cultist, move on ASAP since there's a game over timer. It's only when someone finds like 2-3 cultists in a room and fails to kill them that things start going bad.