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Is a tank supposed to face the direction of its target before firing indirectly, or is its facing irrelevant.

E.g., in this picture can the Manticore fire indirectly at the Ghost arks?


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It's sort of beside the question, but doesn't that turret on the manticore rotate so you wouldn't have to turn the vehicle in this case?

Otherwise, yeah, you still have to face your target to fire, even if it's indirect.
   
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The manticore weapon does not rotate.

only pivots up.

I dont think there are really any relevant rules to it having to pivot in the correct direction without line of sight.

Doesnt look like a problem for a missile but its silly with a thing like a basilisk.

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 Desubot wrote:
The manticore weapon does not rotate.

only pivots up.

I dont think there are really any relevant rules to it having to pivot in the correct direction without line of sight.

Doesnt look like a problem for a missile but its silly with a thing like a basilisk.


I'd like to introduce you to the Excalibur round.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf_5iPmkLiQ

With a little modification, and a bunch of silliness (sounds like the Imperium to me!) no reason it couldn't fire backwards.

That being said, I would rule that you can only fire indirectly if you can't draw LoS to a target because something is blocking your gun barrel (from which you must draw LoS), or you have chosen not to rotate the turret for some other silly reason.
   
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When you fire a vehicle's weapons, you point them at the target and draw LOS as though you were looking down the barrel (in the case of a Manticore, LOS would be the axis going through the missile). When firing indirectly, you don't have to draw LOS, and so you don't need to point the weapon at anything in particular.

If you happen to actually have LOS on your target, and you're beyond the minimum range of the weapon, then you have the option of firing either directly or indirectly. If you fire directly, then yes you would have to point your weapons at the target. But if you choose to fire indirectly, then you don't have to point the weapons at all - there's still no requirement that you draw LOS.

For the specific case of the Manticore, you would still probably want to pivot the tank towards the target if you can draw LOS, as you would get reduced scatter. If you don't do that, then you would only be able to fire indirectly in the shooting phase (since the Manticore's launcher is not on a turret).
   
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 DanielBeaver wrote:
(since the Manticore's launcher is not on a turret).



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Desubot said it doesn't rotate. I don't own a Manticore, so I can't check the model.
   
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GW Plastic ones do not.

older FW ones do it seem

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
 
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