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Or would that be illegal?

That is legal. If a vehicle is destroyed in the shooting phase by a unit, that same unit may indeed charge the occupants that are now in the open.

Only thing that restricts this are the type of weapons (can't charge if you fire Heavy Weapons), with exceptions, such as Relentless.

 Frozocrone wrote:
Only thing that restricts this are the type of weapons (can't charge if you fire Heavy Weapons), with exceptions, such as Relentless.

Not entirely true. Other special rules can restrict charging the passengers after destroying the transport they were embarked on not just "type of weapons". An example would be an Exocrine using it Symbiotic Targeting rule would not be able to charge the passengers despite the fact it fired an assault weapon. So a better way to put this would be:

A unit that destroyed a transport with shooting can charge the passengers in the assault as long as they have no restrictions that would make them ineligible to declare a charge.

 Sir Arun wrote:
Or would that be illegal?

Chck in the rulebook under the heading 'Effects of Damage On Passengers' in the Transports section of the rulebook for permission to do so.

Hang, on, my understanding is that it is completely illegal. BRB states that you cannot shoot one unit and assault another unit. If I shoot at a rhino and wreck it, forcing the passengers to disembark, they are a separate unit from the transport, so I can't then assault them.

As a c/f of why this is important, the knight has a crappy little heavy stubber, because it allows you to walk forward, shoot the big ass gun at a unit of marines, the H Stubber at a land raider, which will then allow you to assault the land raider. Without doing that all important targeting, the land raider couldn't be assaulted.

While I do wish I could (I'm an ork player), you just can't.


Edit: I am 99% sure of this, but will check BRB when I get home tonight....

Edit edit: Looks like there is a special exception clause I missed previously, which is great news for my kommandos and deff koptas.

Dark Artisan and Corpsethief Claw formations also really appreciate the exception.

 goblinzz wrote:


Edit edit: Looks like there is a special exception clause I missed previously, which is great news for my kommandos and deff koptas.

That clause has existed for many editions. Its been around at least since 4th edition.

 Grey Templar wrote:

 goblinzz wrote:


Edit edit: Looks like there is a special exception clause I missed previously, which is great news for my kommandos and deff koptas.

That clause has existed for many editions. Its been around at least since 4th edition.

Checked my 4th edition rulebook and couldn't find the exception. Seems like it only became a thing in 5th.

It just didn't matter in 4th because nobody used transports back then. They were sooooooo bad.

Bojazz wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:

 goblinzz wrote:


Edit edit: Looks like there is a special exception clause I missed previously, which is great news for my kommandos and deff koptas.

That clause has existed for many editions. Its been around at least since 4th edition.

Checked my 4th edition rulebook and couldn't find the exception. Seems like it only became a thing in 5th.

So it was. Memory gets a little fuzzy way back then.

 Mike Leon wrote:
It just didn't matter in 4th because nobody used transports back then. They were sooooooo bad.

Yep. Wrecked transports auto-pinned the passengers, making them sitting ducks.

Now if two units shoot a transport, and the second shooter destroys it, can the first unit charge the passengers?

Yes. Covered by the same rule.