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Hey guys this is probably a better place for this, need some advice on anti undead tactics.

He is using (by memory)
Manfred the mortarch
Terrorghiest or 2
Blender hero vamp
10 black knights
50 zombies
Varghiests

I'm using
Black plate mino lord build I was advised to use
Level 4 sorcerer lord of death or nurgle on palinquin, with skull and familier
Throgg
16 trolls
Giant of nurgle
Shaggoth with gw
6 dragon ogres or 6 deamon juggers

So any list advice advice, tactic advice ?

Not knowing Warriors to well, i can only say replace Skull with a Dispel Scroll. Manfred is the best death wizard in the game, because of his flying movement he can easily get where he needs and avoid combat and due to his ability to manipulate the number of magic dice he will always ensure to tax your dispel dice. With that in mind, especially when using such low Initiative models, it is imperative you can stop that Purple Sun when it is cast, it could win or lose you the game.

Consider replacing the Giant with a BSB on a Daemonic Steed (I believe he has the same profile as the Trolls), the re-rolls could be very helpful vs the Terrorghiest screams.

Thanks, sadly the bsb doesn't help agaist the terrorghiest, it rolls 2d6 and adds it's wounds, I don't get to roll a ld test.

The giant is basically there to counter charge a unit and look big and scary, although a 200pt distraction isn't exactly that great lol

I would try to find room for a hellcannon. Terrorgheists have HUGE bases, and it's hard to miss them without misfiring.

With a bit of monkeying I have managed to fit a skull cannon into the list, hopefully kill a terrorghiest


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Had my game and absolutely crushed him, throgg and Co (mino lord and sorcerer) minced a 50 man block of zombies in a turn, killed 30! Then the rest crumbled to dust, next turn they charged 10 black knights and 2 morghasts, the ghasts kb my sorcerer on the demonic mount, the mino lord killed 5 black knights and throgg another 2, the trolls killed another 1 and a morghast, the rest crumbled, overrun into 40 ghouls that had just killed my shaggoth with 8 6s to hit and I fluffed all my saves, my dragon ogres killed his terrorghiest as it got too close.

Manfred just kept summoning stuff all game including another terrorghiest, which my giant somehow managed a double 6 to charge then did 12 wounds with thump with club, it died instantly.

All in all a good game.

Killing blow should not have worked on your sorcerer lord. Demonic mount makes the sorceror monstrous cavalry. Unless the ghasts had hkb.

Sounds like a fun game, lots of brick on brick combat with lots of shenanigans. Lucky that the VC player made the rookie mistake of picking Undeath over Death, sure Manfred is better then most at summoning, but his real calling is as a top class Death Wizard.

Do you think the Sorcerer Lord was worth it over a level 2 with scroll? In such a combat heavy list i can't imagine any buffs that magic could give would make the combat go *more* in your favor then it would of already.

I went nurgle in the end and playing end times khaine magic got me a 3+ regen for a turn with the trolls, also knocking the t down of certain units that game helped a lot.

All in all the nurgle level 4 saved my ass a couple of times (mainly getting a dispel off on purple sun that would have gutted my trolls)


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Ok guys got another game on Monday vs pure nurgle tourney deamons with epi

Epi
Deamon prince level 4
25 bears
3 beasts
3 beasts
Flies and more flies
Hellcannon

Think that's it

Any tips

I find that Slugtongue is really good against chaos.
He's the bray shaman that before the game starts you roll a D6 for every enemy unit within 36". 1-3 nothing happens, 4-5 they take D3 wound (no armor), 6 they take D6 wounds (no armor).
As a level 2 with regenerate, poison attacks and the curse (above) he's amazing for 190 points.

I've been looking at slugtongue for dealing with tricksy cannons and steam tanks, just knocking a few wounds off could help a tad.