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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/10 04:45:13
Subject: Grant Bonuses for Charging with 2 CCW?
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So, if you have 2 CWW when you charge, you get +1A. A pistol counts as this when charging. But what if I take a sword and another sword? Why would I ever do that if I trade all of my potential shooting for the same bonus as a pistol that gets a token attempt to shoot.
So, I would propose that if you charge into CC you get +1A for having a CCW+ pistol, +2A for having 2 CWW of some kind. specialist weapons only get this bonus if they have 2 of the SAME specialist weapons.
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+1A for having pistol+ CCW, +1A + shred for having 2 CCW. You re roll 1s and 2s if you already have shred and specialist weapons only get this for having 2 of the same specialist weapons.
Now when I model a cool berzerker or something with 2 chainaxes and he looks awesome because he is awesome, its not a loose- loose situation.There is also a reason to take dual lightning claws now. (ninja warp talon buff!)
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I went to Hershey Park in central PA this year, and I have to say I was more than a little disappointed. I fully expected the entire theme park to be make entirely of chocolate, but no. Here in America, we have "building codes," and some other nonsense about chocolate melting if don't store it someplace kept below room temperature. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/10 07:42:58
Subject: Grant Bonuses for Charging with 2 CCW?
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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The first idea sounds pretty good... But I'd forget the whole same specialist weapon thing.
The problem with giving shred is that a lot of weapons (like lightning caws) use it as their main selling point. What would be the point of taking dual LC when you could just take 2 power swords? Or do you mean that they could reroll1s and 2s to hit?
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Militarum Tempestus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/10 21:07:50
Subject: Grant Bonuses for Charging with 2 CCW?
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Talon of Anathrax wrote:The first idea sounds pretty good... But I'd forget the whole same specialist weapon thing.
The problem with giving shred is that a lot of weapons (like lightning caws) use it as their main selling point. What would be the point of taking dual LC when you could just take 2 power swords? Or do you mean that they could reroll1s and 2s to hit?
normal weapons would get shred for having 2x CCW. Weapons that already have shred would get a boosted version of shred where you can re roll 1s and 2s to wound instead of just 1s.
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I went to Hershey Park in central PA this year, and I have to say I was more than a little disappointed. I fully expected the entire theme park to be make entirely of chocolate, but no. Here in America, we have "building codes," and some other nonsense about chocolate melting if don't store it someplace kept below room temperature. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/11 01:59:21
Subject: Grant Bonuses for Charging with 2 CCW?
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Powerfisting wrote: Talon of Anathrax wrote:The first idea sounds pretty good... But I'd forget the whole same specialist weapon thing.
The problem with giving shred is that a lot of weapons (like lightning caws) use it as their main selling point. What would be the point of taking dual LC when you could just take 2 power swords? Or do you mean that they could reroll1s and 2s to hit?
normal weapons would get shred for having 2x CCW. Weapons that already have shred would get a boosted version of shred where you can re roll 1s and 2s to wound instead of just 1s.
Uhh...
Unless I've been playing this edition wrong, shred is re-roll all failed wounds.
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If I sound like I'm being a condescending butthole, I'm not. Read my reply as neutrally as possible, please and thank you. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/11 02:03:19
Subject: Grant Bonuses for Charging with 2 CCW?
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Ond Angel wrote: Powerfisting wrote: Talon of Anathrax wrote:The first idea sounds pretty good... But I'd forget the whole same specialist weapon thing.
The problem with giving shred is that a lot of weapons (like lightning caws) use it as their main selling point. What would be the point of taking dual LC when you could just take 2 power swords? Or do you mean that they could reroll1s and 2s to hit?
normal weapons would get shred for having 2x CCW. Weapons that already have shred would get a boosted version of shred where you can re roll 1s and 2s to wound instead of just 1s.
Uhh...
Unless I've been playing this edition wrong, shred is re-roll all failed wounds.
You've been playing it right. It feels lame not getting something for loading up on double swords, but it seems like this has potential to dramatic alter the way some units play.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/11 02:28:07
Subject: Grant Bonuses for Charging with 2 CCW?
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Wyldhunt wrote: Ond Angel wrote: Powerfisting wrote: Talon of Anathrax wrote:The first idea sounds pretty good... But I'd forget the whole same specialist weapon thing.
The problem with giving shred is that a lot of weapons (like lightning caws) use it as their main selling point. What would be the point of taking dual LC when you could just take 2 power swords? Or do you mean that they could reroll1s and 2s to hit?
normal weapons would get shred for having 2x CCW. Weapons that already have shred would get a boosted version of shred where you can re roll 1s and 2s to wound instead of just 1s.
Uhh...
Unless I've been playing this edition wrong, shred is re-roll all failed wounds.
You've been playing it right. It feels lame not getting something for loading up on double swords, but it seems like this has potential to dramatic alter the way some units play.
I agree it's good for loading up on two CCW/2 identical specialist CCW, claws are going to get shafted.
Also, from the way this is worded, I could take a power axe & power maul and would have Shred due to having 2CCW.
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If I sound like I'm being a condescending butthole, I'm not. Read my reply as neutrally as possible, please and thank you. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/11 15:06:15
Subject: Grant Bonuses for Charging with 2 CCW?
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Dakka Veteran
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Ond Angel wrote: Powerfisting wrote: Talon of Anathrax wrote:The first idea sounds pretty good... But I'd forget the whole same specialist weapon thing.
The problem with giving shred is that a lot of weapons (like lightning caws) use it as their main selling point. What would be the point of taking dual LC when you could just take 2 power swords? Or do you mean that they could reroll1s and 2s to hit?
normal weapons would get shred for having 2x CCW. Weapons that already have shred would get a boosted version of shred where you can re roll 1s and 2s to wound instead of just 1s.
Uhh...
Unless I've been playing this edition wrong, shred is re-roll all failed wounds.
Oh, no. I have to read this game better.
I suppose shuffling around with special rules is tricky. Would the first option in my OP be viable? I was looking for some way to grant bonuses for having 2 weapons and no shooting, but wanted to be a little creative. Just granting another attack seems uninspired.
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I went to Hershey Park in central PA this year, and I have to say I was more than a little disappointed. I fully expected the entire theme park to be make entirely of chocolate, but no. Here in America, we have "building codes," and some other nonsense about chocolate melting if don't store it someplace kept below room temperature. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/11 17:40:28
Subject: Grant Bonuses for Charging with 2 CCW?
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Powerfisting wrote: Ond Angel wrote: Powerfisting wrote: Talon of Anathrax wrote:The first idea sounds pretty good... But I'd forget the whole same specialist weapon thing.
The problem with giving shred is that a lot of weapons (like lightning caws) use it as their main selling point. What would be the point of taking dual LC when you could just take 2 power swords? Or do you mean that they could reroll1s and 2s to hit?
normal weapons would get shred for having 2x CCW. Weapons that already have shred would get a boosted version of shred where you can re roll 1s and 2s to wound instead of just 1s.
Uhh...
Unless I've been playing this edition wrong, shred is re-roll all failed wounds.
Oh, no. I have to read this game better.
I suppose shuffling around with special rules is tricky. Would the first option in my OP be viable? I was looking for some way to grant bonuses for having 2 weapons and no shooting, but wanted to be a little creative. Just granting another attack seems uninspired.
Re-roll failed hits seems like a good idea IMO.
That way it's not just "Cool, have more attacks".
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