Land Raider Spearhead Formation...worth it?

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**Malathrim**

I was wondering if anyone's had a chance to try out the new LandRaider Formation? Definitely a bunch of points, but they seem pretty unstoppable, as the rules don't limit it to having all the Land Raiders alive to get the bonus.

I was thinking of putting some Hammernators in one, and also one with Death Cult Assassins. But which Chapter would be best for the Terminators? I'm almost thinking Black Templars for that since they could get good bubble buffs from Helbrecht right? The Inquisition has some other good anti-psyker stuff, so that might make good fluffy sense too, and chuck in a Culexus into the third Land Raider? The last bit might be fun for a roving anti-psyker tank (area of effect shenanigans).

**Red Marine**

Man im on the fence on this. 3 godhammers would really help with anti armor. AV 14s really durable... The point for point value of its firepower is still questionable. At the same time how many people have 3 land raiders?

Thete bonuses also only apply to gmc and super heavys, so most of the time your looking only at huge point games. Especially since its a 750 point formation. Against such opponents i think you'll see even poorer points efficiency. For the same points you could get 3 tooled up Cent squads.

**Malathrim**

I forgot about the shooty bonuses. I meant the ignoring vehicle damage results other than wrecked or explodes. But whe there are certainly plenty of armies that have things to deal w av14 I don't see too many besides grav (which this formation would ignore the immobilized results and thus need 4 6s to wreck it) and gauss. Not sure if a Skyhammer Formation would fit into anything under 2k w the Spearhead but that would
Be a fun combo.

**Xenomancers**

I think once you get up to about 2500 points this formation can become viable
Play dark angels

3 Godhamemrs w/MM
Raven wing support squad 5x 2xHB and a dark shroud as base.The speeders jink in front of the LR with reroll jink saves. seems like it has potential.

**triplegrim**

Does the land raiders lose Hull points even if they dont lose weapons gets shakes etc?

If so, the formation sounds too expensive below 2400+. Perhaps if paired with 3 death companies from BA or some death cult assassins from inquisition could they be usefull...

**Crazyterran**

Could be decent with Crusader Squads, if you don't need all 16 slots you could change them out for Redeemers and such. Lose Obsec, but gain the ability to ignore pretty much anything that will stop you from getting into combat short of an explodes result.

**Slayer-Fan123**

If you REALLY wanted Land Raiders, might as well be in this formation.
The question THEN becomes what to run in them! A Centurion Assault Squad, an Honour Guard Squad, and an Assault Terminator squad would look diverse, though not necessarily effective.

**saithor**

Landraiders, the one time GW attempted to balance a possibly broken unit, by nerfing it to uselessness. I'd say run them, Land Raiders are actually the one thing that would make me leave IG. Yes they are weak to Gauss, Grav, Strength D, and Melta, but I question if an opponent will have enough enough of any below 2000 pts to deal with them and whatever else you have on the field.

**Desubot**

Do you want a Super heavy landraider transport Kitted out with multiple guns and semi Super heavy split fire?

Its super expensive if not just fun.

**NightWrench**

Red Marine wrote:
Man im on the fence on this. 3 godhammers would really help with anti armor. AV 14s really durable... The point for point value of its firepower is still questionable. At the same time how many people have 3 land raiders?

Thete bonuses also only apply to gmc and super heavys, so most of the time your looking only at huge point games. Especially since its a 750 point formation. Against such opponents i think you'll see even poorer points efficiency. For the same points you could get 3 tooled up Cent squads.

I actually don't own three land raiders. I had to go check.

I might actually try this out using my Spartan as the third land raider with my Typhon in support when I get it together. I think I will run a CAD and take Pedro and some friends or go crazy and take all haminators with first company strike force or maybe one squad of sterngaurd.

**triplegrim**

I guess taking a techmarine would be obligatory with such a formation, or?

**Desubot**

triplegrim wrote:
I guess taking a techmarine would be obligatory with such a formation, or?

Its still possible to HP them out or asplode them. Id say DA Tech with power field or take a void shield generator and hope for the best.

**axisofentropy**

power field generator is history

use the Skitarii Killclade formation and fill the land raiders with three units of Rustalkers.

**Drasius**

triple raider formation + 1st company formation with 3x hammernators = 1500 point list done. Not terribly competative, but fun as hell I'd wager.