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Made in ca
Fresh-Faced New User





i need help to replicate the look of an airbrush with out using one.
i have tried to buy one but here in Canada they are a tad on the expensive side and i cant afford one.
so if anyone could help me out that would be great.
   
Made in us
Legendary Master of the Chapter






Carefully using Rattle cans?

Or the original way of using brush and blends.

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
Made in is
Mysterious Techpriest






Be really good at brush painting!!
   
Made in au
Incorporating Wet-Blending




Sydney

You can get super cheap airbrushes which are probably the cost of 3 rattle cans - they will do a horrible job, but no worse than rattle cans for precision.

That said, what airbrush look do you want to replicate?

Zenithal highlighting? Easy as pie.

OSL? No chance.
   
Made in au
Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot





Adelaide, Australia

kb_lock wrote:

OSL? No chance.


This guy seems to manage pretty darn well.

http://handcannononline.com/blog/2011/08/05/tutorial-advanced-object-source-lighting/


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 MrMoustaffa wrote:

It'd make one hell of a messiah.

"Oh, yours died on a cross? That's cool. My messiah is a 100 ton land battleship that crushes the souls of the unfaithful beneath it's holy treads. ALL HAIL THE CRASSUS ARMORED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!"
 
   
Made in ca
Fresh-Faced New User





kb_lock wrote:
You can get super cheap airbrushes which are probably the cost of 3 rattle cans - they will do a horrible job, but no worse than rattle cans for precision.

That said, what airbrush look do you want to replicate?

Zenithal highlighting? Easy as pie.

OSL? No chance.

i want to do something like this.
the cheapest airbrush and air-compressor combo i can get here is $175 that's from amazon.ca though from a store $250.
[Thumb - ice-eldar-army-1.jpg]

   
Made in us
Badass "Sister Sin"






Camas, WA

Amazon has lower end airbrush and compressor for like $50.

And my wife does osl all the time by hand.

Looking for great deals on miniatures or have a large pile you are looking to sell off? Checkout Mindtaker Miniatures.
Live in the Pacific NW? Check out http://ordofanaticus.com
 
   
Made in ca
Fresh-Faced New User





 pretre wrote:
Amazon has lower end airbrush and compressor for like $50.

And my wife does osl all the time by hand.

i can get just the airbrush for cheaper but i only have a big air-compressor meant for heavier work
   
Made in au
Incorporating Wet-Blending




Sydney

Paint_To_Redemption wrote:
kb_lock wrote:

OSL? No chance.


This guy seems to manage pretty darn well.

http://handcannononline.com/blog/2011/08/05/tutorial-advanced-object-source-lighting/


Is that with a rattle can? Nice, I stand corrected.

rainbowcthulhu wrote:
kb_lock wrote:
You can get super cheap airbrushes which are probably the cost of 3 rattle cans - they will do a horrible job, but no worse than rattle cans for precision.

That said, what airbrush look do you want to replicate?

Zenithal highlighting? Easy as pie.

OSL? No chance.

i want to do something like this.
the cheapest airbrush and air-compressor combo i can get here is $175 that's from amazon.ca though from a store $250.

That looks achievable to me. Have a look at harbor freight for a compressor, or ebay for cheap alternatives
   
Made in us
Badass "Sister Sin"






Camas, WA

People were doing osl without rattle cans or airbrush for a while.

Also, further chance to brag on my wife:


Looking for great deals on miniatures or have a large pile you are looking to sell off? Checkout Mindtaker Miniatures.
Live in the Pacific NW? Check out http://ordofanaticus.com
 
   
Made in au
Perfect Shot Dark Angels Predator Pilot





Adelaide, Australia

kb_lock wrote:

Is that with a rattle can? Nice, I stand corrected.


Pretty sure it's just with a brush actually. He talks about two-brush blending a bit. Read his guide for it and I'm gonna try it out a bit with some regular highlights before moving on to OSL.

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 MrMoustaffa wrote:

It'd make one hell of a messiah.

"Oh, yours died on a cross? That's cool. My messiah is a 100 ton land battleship that crushes the souls of the unfaithful beneath it's holy treads. ALL HAIL THE CRASSUS ARMORED ASSAULT TRANSPORT!"
 
   
Made in au
Incorporating Wet-Blending




Sydney

Winterdyne only uses a brush due to control, and he's one of the best painters I've seen.

I was also only suggesting that osl with a rattle can is impossible, or really difficult
   
Made in au
Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf





Drybrushing can look almost like airbrushing if it's done with a nice soft brush very lightly and built up in multiple layers, but it's hard to avoid it looking a bit grainy.

But if you want to create something like that eldar army, you'll be drybrushing forever

That Eldar army you pictured has big large gradients so in some ways you don't need fine control to do it, though I still think you'll struggle to do it with a rattle can. But even a cheap airbrush you should be able to do it.

It you want to do it cheaply, look at what fittings you can buy for your big air compressor to adapt to an airbrush (you just need the right sized fittings and a regulator that works well in the 5-30PSI range) and then get a cheap airbrush to go with it.

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Made in us
Legendary Master of the Chapter






rainbowcthulhu wrote:
 pretre wrote:
Amazon has lower end airbrush and compressor for like $50.

And my wife does osl all the time by hand.

i can get just the airbrush for cheaper but i only have a big air-compressor meant for heavier work


Then all you need as an airbrush and a regulator/water trap and some piping to finish that up.

Hell amazon sells masters regulator moisture trap combos.

The only issue is the noise with the bigger compressors though if it has a BIG tank it shouldn't be as bad.




 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
Made in us
Fresh-Faced New User




rainbowcthulhu wrote:
 pretre wrote:
Amazon has lower end airbrush and compressor for like $50.

And my wife does osl all the time by hand.

i can get just the airbrush for cheaper but i only have a big air-compressor meant for heavier work


In that case, you could use the big air compressor to fill a portable air tank (that you later hook a moisture trap and pressure regulator to) for silent operation in your house. Below are a few examples of the size of container I'm thinking of. This option will let you airbrush a lot longer than the tiny compressors (like the one I bought) since the compressors heat up and need a cooling off period.

http://www.harborfreight.com/11-gallon-portable-air-tank-65595.html
http://www.harborfreight.com/5-gallon-portable-air-tank-65594.html

Pretre, your wife did an incredible job on that. You have good reason to be proud.
   
Made in gb
Secretive Dark Angels Veteran



UK - Warwickshire

rainbowcthulhu wrote:

i can get just the airbrush for cheaper but i only have a big air-compressor meant for heavier work


Use a regulator. And ideally an air tank. Apart from the probably much louder noise of it running, the big workshop compressor is way way better than a little half a horse power airbrush compressor that overheats in 30mins and spits water.

Those who say use a paintbrush blend... erm no. airbrush can do things tht paintbrush cannot. (and vice versa) the marks that each makes are not possible with the other tool. Both have a their place.

edit ~ on a budget you can run an airbrush off a spare tyre with the appropriate valve.
http://www.wirelessmadness.com/badger-spare-tyre-adaptor-to-use-with-propel-regulator-50-200-ba50029?language=en¤cy=GBP&gclid=CKaGl_uv5MYCFUcOwwodgaYG2Q

You use one of these to convert the tyre valve into an 8th inch airbrush hose valve, then run it through a regulator and to the airbrush. You could foot pump the tyre up if need be but most local garrages will have a tyre filling station that costs pennies a go.

You could then get a splitter and a couple of one way valves so you could have the pump connected at the same time or use quick connect couplings to make swapping brush and pump over easier maybe.

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Made in au
Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf





If you didn't decide to buy an airbrush, I have found one alternative to airbrushing.

Oil drybrushing, I've been playing around with it recently and you can actually create some surprisingly smooth blends using nothing but a few hairy brushes. Because the oil takes longer to dry and goes on more smoothly than an acrylic, you can spend time working on blending from one colour to another.

I've been having decent luck applying the brighter colour first using an acrylic, waiting plenty of time for it to cure (day or so) and then applying the darker colour with an oil paint and then using drybrushing to blend the darker colour in to the lighter colour. If you create something you don't like, using a brush very lightly moistened with white spirit you can clean it off and try again.

I'm just using soap and water to clean my brushes.

I don't know how well it'll hold up over time, I imagine you'd have to wait a few days for it to dry and then hit it with a varnish to protect it.

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