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You can see current event information, buy tickets/check the waitlist here:

http://www.leagueofpainters.com/?page_id=1546

League of Underwhelming Miniature Painters presents its first Grand Tournament and the first single Warhammer 40K GT to be held in Sacramento since Capital Punishment in 2005. “Know No Mercy GT” (KNMGT) hosted at Great Escape Games in Sacramento, CA is being held Saturday and Sunday October 3-4, 2015. The event is an Independent Tournmament Circuit (ITC) event; however it will use a modified ITC FAQ and will use a collection of missions drawn from an inspired by other events, but specific to the KNMGT.

1850 points, Battle-forged
6 round, 2 day tournament
64 player hard cap
First Round begins promptly at 9:30am, check-in will begin no later than 9:00am
The address is 1250 Howe Avenue, suite 3A, Sacramento, CA 95825

When you say "battle forged" are you going with the ITC army building format or with straight BRB format?

 mortetvie wrote:
When you say "battle forged" are you going with the ITC army building format or with straight BRB format?

BRB format, no experimental rules.

So you can have unlimited CADs and Formations and such as long as they fit into 1850 points?! Nifty.

The unmodified book rules seems like a refreshing way to play, honestly. It is nice to have a one-off ITC format every once in a while.

 mortetvie wrote:
So you can have unlimited CADs and Formations and such as long as they fit into 1850 points?

Yes.

Im signed up! The first two No Mercy tournaments were great, i'm excited for a full GT now!!!!

Our FAQ is live at the event website linked above. Rulings that differ from the ITC FAQ are clearly marked in BLUE. The mission primer will be up in draft on Sunday night.

Mission primer is live. Raffle for a $50 gift card for anyone who signs up by August 14th.

The event is more than half sold now. Only 4 more days to get in on the early registration raffle for a $50 gift card.

I'd get in on this but Sac is a bit far for me to travel for a two day tourny (I'm in San Jose).

andysonic1 wrote:
I'd get in on this but Sac is a bit far for me to travel for a two day tourny (I'm in San Jose).

Should make it a weekend get away. Not that far unless you're going by public transit then I can see it be a little more pain to do.

Today is the last day to register and qualify for the $50 gift card raffle.

 Panzer1944 wrote:

andysonic1 wrote:
I'd get in on this but Sac is a bit far for me to travel for a two day tourny (I'm in San Jose).

Should make it a weekend get away. Not that far unless you're going by public transit then I can see it be a little more pain to do.

andysonic, I see your 2 hours and raise you 3.5 more. I'm coming up from Los Angeles.


I'm with Panzer. andysonic, you've got to drive 2 hours for a SIX game GT, when the ITC GTs seem to be 5 Rounds as of the last LVO.

I am stoked for the mechanic of a 2-in-1 set up, the 2nd day being an RTT for 50% losers.

Kiddie pool, here I come!

I really wanna make it to this event.

andysonic1 wrote:I'd get in on this but Sac is a bit far for me to travel for a two day tourny (I'm in San Jose).

Aside from BAO there aren't any GTs that are closer that I'm aware of. Hope you can make it. I know a few people coming from San Jose if transportation is an issue - PM me.

Panzer1944 wrote:Should make it a weekend get away. Not that far unless you're going by public transit then I can see it be a little more pain to do.

Yup, a weekend in Sacramento playing 40K is pretty great. The store hosting us is the biggest I'm aware of in all of Northern California.

Brothererekose wrote:andysonic, I see your 2 hours and raise you 3.5 more. I'm coming up from Los Angeles.


I'm with Panzer. andysonic, you've got to drive 2 hours for a SIX game GT, when the ITC GTs seem to be 5 Rounds as of the last LVO.

I am stoked for the mechanic of a 2-in-1 set up, the 2nd day being an RTT for 50% losers.

Kiddie pool, here I come!

Glad to have you coming up. We've got 6 of the top 10 ITC ranked players currently signed up and I expect Julio should come up, right?

I'm glad I'm able to run a 2 in 1 event. Who wants to play 6 rounds if you know you can't win anything after day 1, right?

Julnlecs wrote:I really wanna make it to this event.

We'd love to have you.

 punchdub wrote:

 mortetvie wrote:
So you can have unlimited CADs and Formations and such as long as they fit into 1850 points?

Yes.

Just so it is obvious, so that everyone is aware, does this also mean that multiple cads means you can take multiple lords of war (e.g. more than one Wraithknight per army)?

 mortetvie wrote:
Just so it is obvious, so that everyone is aware, does this also mean that multiple cads means you can take multiple lords of war (e.g. more than one Wraithknight per army)?

Yes. Battle-forged means that anyone can bring any legal list, including 1 or more Wraithknights provided they are taken in appropriate detachments. Since we are not banning CTA it means that everyone essentially has access to the same units in every army, with the deployment and location restrictions described in the ally limitations. Also, note that the Escalation bonus VP conditions are in effect.

OH GOSH THE PEER PRESSURE.

Really though, I'm running Daemonkin and not anything cheesy (and the ban on experimental rules means no chaos titans or kytan), so I think I'd get my butt handed to me pretty quickly. If my list somehow gets better in the next month I'll sign up. I feel like I'm getting somewhere with my Gorepack spam, but I need to run it against some cheese first.

 punchdub wrote:

 mortetvie wrote:
Just so it is obvious, so that everyone is aware, does this also mean that multiple cads means you can take multiple lords of war (e.g. more than one Wraithknight per army)?

Yes. Battle-forged means that anyone can bring any legal list, including 1 or more Wraithknights provided they are taken in appropriate detachments. Since we are not banning CTA it means that everyone essentially has access to the same units in every army, with the deployment and location restrictions described in the ally limitations. Also, note that the Escalation bonus VP conditions are in effect.

So lets see who will be the guy to bring a single Windrider host and 4-5 Wraith Knights for their Eldar Warhost!

 mortetvie wrote:

 punchdub wrote:

 mortetvie wrote:
Just so it is obvious, so that everyone is aware, does this also mean that multiple cads means you can take multiple lords of war (e.g. more than one Wraithknight per army)?

Yes. Battle-forged means that anyone can bring any legal list, including 1 or more Wraithknights provided they are taken in appropriate detachments. Since we are not banning CTA it means that everyone essentially has access to the same units in every army, with the deployment and location restrictions described in the ally limitations. Also, note that the Escalation bonus VP conditions are in effect.

So lets see who will be the guy to bring a single Windrider host and 4-5 Wraith Knights for their Eldar Warhost!

Don't be that guy, Adam. Remember, you're going for Best Sportsman!

It's that GTA guy who'll prolly bring 3 WKs.

If I go, I may bring 1, MAYBE 2 wraithknights... They are more of a liability in this event's meta IMO.

 andysonic1 wrote:
Really though, I'm running Daemonkin and not anything cheesy (and the ban on experimental rules means no chaos titans or kytan), so I think I'd get my butt handed to me pretty quickly. If my list somehow gets better in the next month I'll sign up. I feel like I'm getting somewhere with my Gorepack spam, but I need to run it against some cheese first.

I'll likely allow experimental units into future events on an "approved list" basis. You could certainly run an Imperial Knight for this event in lieu of the Chaos Knight. As for cheese - I think the people that play in my events recognize that an all out fight requires both brutality and cunning. No one wants to bring a knife to gun fight. We award the person who first tables their opponent each round - in a good spirited way. We also award bonus raffle tickets to people who lose their matches. Everyone gets something and we all get to attempt to crush our opponents.

 mortetvie wrote:
If I go, I may bring 1, MAYBE 2 wraithknights... They are more of a liability in this event's meta IMO.

That wasn't by accident. Nor is the fact that you have to go undefeated for 6 rounds to win, and the size of twin has no bearing on the overall winner. Nor is the fact that your army has to be able to play simultaneous/parallel missions in 4 rounds, maelstrom in a 5th and an all out kill point match to take home the trophy.

Yo,

I have a quick question: Can you bring Sevrin Loth or any named forgeworld llibrarian as part of the SM Librarius conclave? Forgeworld hasn't released an FAQ yet so we don't know. I e-mailed them and they said to just play it however I want (lol). I'm assuming you could, because they specifically mention being allowed to take Tigurius in a conclave, it's just that he's the only named librarian in the codex. So I'm assuming named libbys can also be taken as part of the formation instead of just generic librarians, which makes sense, including forgeworld ones if forgeworld is allowed.

Is this ok?

Thanks. Hope to be able to come. I like your mission format! Should be a good event to see which lists are strong in all settings!

 Fearfire wrote:
Yo,

I have a quick question: Can you bring Sevrin Loth or any named forgeworld llibrarian as part of the SM Librarius conclave? Forgeworld hasn't released an FAQ yet so we don't know. I e-mailed them and they said to just play it however I want (lol). I'm assuming you could, because they specifically mention being allowed to take Tigurius in a conclave, it's just that he's the only named librarian in the codex. So I'm assuming named libbys can also be taken as part of the formation instead of just generic librarians, which makes sense, including forgeworld ones if forgeworld is allowed.

Is this ok?

At this time, I will not be allowing FW named characters to sub in for generic Librarians, Captains and Chaplains in formations. While I completely understand that this seems reasonable, the ripple effect of rules decisions that would have to be FAQ'd are more than I am willing to tackle so close to the event. This is consistent with the position that FLG has expressed on their podcast. My understanding is that Badab Wars is being updated very soon, so let's hope FW updates their characters soon, or their FAQ.

Hope to be able to come. I like your mission format! Should be a good event to see which lists are strong in all settings!

I hope you can make it. Thanks.

Less than 30 days out, remaining tickets number in the teens. A few more and we will be an ETC qualifying event. I expect to have the final mission primer revisions (all minor) wrapped and published this week.

Lazy Thursday afternoon, just over 2 weeks out, bump.

And then there were 13 spots left. Trophies have been ordered, prizes bought. We've got a couple of contestants celebrating their birthdays that weekend, so Saturday night should be fun!

 punchdub wrote:
And then there were 13 spots left. Trophies have been ordered, prizes bought. We've got a couple of contestants celebrating their birthdays that weekend, so Saturday night should be fun!

Who talked!?
Bad enough being a libra without someone blabbing about it.

 Brothererekose wrote:

 punchdub wrote:
And then there were 13 spots left. Trophies have been ordered, prizes bought. We've got a couple of contestants celebrating their birthdays that weekend, so Saturday night should be fun!

Who talked!?
Bad enough being a libra without someone blabbing about it.

I guess we have even more people celebrating their birthdays. That should make the party even sweeter.

We're excited that Punchdub is using http://www.battle-comm.com/ for the Know No Mercy GT. We're working with Punch to send all current registered participants invites to create Battle-Comm profiles starting next week. We'll have an RSS feed to provide ongoing event coverage and we've got a quite a few other surprises in store as well. Stay tuned!

Bryce