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Good day,
I have a Ravenwing Heavy list, and I was curious to see how to effectively build my 2 5man squad of terminator.
It seems to me that keeping them cheap is the way to go, but maybe someone has a better idea?

I was thinking running them like such: 5man, Sergeant with Power Sword and storm bolter, 3 with power fist and storm bolter, 1 with heavy flamer.

Heavy Flamer seem like a better gun to me, because of the mass of beacon I have when I deepstike. I decide when I arrive on the table (I can decide if or not I pass the reserve test), and I don't scatter near my bikes (which should be pretty close to the enemy. Also, I can run and shoot if I need to really maximize the number of hit with the flamer.

From what I can tell the best Heavies are the Assault Cannon and Cyclone Missile Launcher, don't know which of the two is better as I've asked in another topic and not gotten a clear answer.
If you're going with the standard route, consider Chainfists.
A lot of people swear by "Assault" style Terminators (Thunder Hammer and Storm Shield or Lightning Claws), so maybe look into that, I wouldn't be able to say.

Sounds like you're using the special Deathwing formation. I would go with a unit of DW Knights and Chaplain for the HQ tax, if you want a shooty unit then then the loadout you mentioned isn't bad, I would throw in 1 chainfist for the extra antitank potential. Remember that you can run then shoot which is nice to get the template in place and not get owned by a plasma cannon.

I'm using either the Redemption force of the Deathwing strike Force (probably the latter).

I have no models for Knights (I try to WYSIWYG most of the time) sadly

Right now, I was able to fit:
1 librarian in termi armour, level 2
5 man Deathwing Command squad with Apo, Heavy Flamer
5man Deathwing Termi with Heavy Flamer.

I guess I could find a 5 points to have that 1 chain fist in there.

You have plenty of room for Chainfists.

Though it sounds like replacing the Heavy Flamers with Assault Cannons would be a prudent move. Same AP, more Strength and Rending!
Also the Champion is good in the Command Squad though he's a strictly choppy unit so I don't know if you'd really want him.

Would it be worth dropping the Level 2 from the Librarian for the Assault Cannon and chain fist upgrade?

Also, should I consider dropping the librarian completly and just going for a Chaplain in terminator armor, going with the command squad with an Apo, a Champion, a flamer and 3 lightning claw?

I could then put the other squad with just powerfist, storm bolter and an Assault Cannon

I'd say if you have the Libby keep the ML2, maybe make room elsewhere in the list if you need to.

It's just that because the way my list is made, there is not much wiggle room.

I could do:
Librarian level 2,
5man command (apo, Hflamer)
5man termi (Hflamer)

OR

Librairan level 1,
5man Command (apo, Assault cannon)
5man Knights (I guess I could proxy them until I put my hand on the actual model)


I could bring the librarian level 2, but that would cost me a Typhoon missile Launcher on a speeder, and I don't think it's worth it since the Librarian will only arrive turn 2 on board.

Do you have any more-than-minimum Bike Squads? If so, maybe dropping a few of the superfluous Bikers to make room for better things might be prudent.

I'm running 2 5man biker squad. I don't like running 3, and 4 is just a odd number, becasue the first casualty always cause a morale test.

I suppose that's a fair point, but it's still something to consider.
Also, don't forgot And They Shall Know No Fear!

EDIT: I posted this in the wrong thread.

I don't want to turn this thread in a list building thread (I want to focus on the Deathwing Strike Force loadout); but for the sake of background, this is the list I could potentially run:

+++RAVENWING STRIKE FORCE+++ 980pts
+HQ+
-Sammael 200pts

+ELITE+
-6man Ravenwing Command Squad (Apothecary, Ravenwing Grenade Launcher, Ravenwing Banner) 290pts

+FAST ATTACK+
-4man Ravenwing Attack Squadron (2x Meltagun, Melta Bomb) 125pts
-4man Ravenwing Attack Squadron (2x Meltagun, Melta Bomb) 125pts
-6man Ravenwing Black Knight (2x Ravenwing Grenade Launcher) 240pts

+++FORMATION - Support Squadron+++ 305pts
-Darkshroud 80pts
-3man Land Speeder (3x Typhoon Missile Launcher) 225pts

+++DEATHWING STRIKE FORCE+++ 565pts
-Librarian (Terminator Armour, Level 2) 115pts
-5man Deathwing Command Squad Squad (Apothecary, Heavy Flamer) 215pts
-5man Deathwing Knights 235pts

TOTAL: 1850pts

So considering this list, does the Deathwing Strike Force seem close to optimal with the current loadout?

My current loadout which has done pretty well so far is;
2 TH/SS
1 Assault Cannon
1 Power Claws
1 Stormbolter+chain fist

The TH/SS termies are the tanks for the unit. They cost an extra 10 pts per model though so it really starts adding up if you take more than 2.

The assault cannon gives them something to do when they DS and lets them open up a transport occasionally.

The stormbolter+chain fist is to split fire and allow you to charge another target if you cannot charge the assault cannon target. The chain fist is amazing if you need to take down a tough vehicle.

The power claws are to give one cheap body to sacrifice most games but occasionally he is the all star that lets your termies slice through MSU MEQ or GEQ at a reasonable pace rather than getting bogged down. The 10 pts difference makes him much more attractive.