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If they do, how have they avoided the 'Abominable Intelligence' problem that nearly wiped out Humanity with the Iron Men?

If they don't, why not? A handful of known races have more advanced tech than humans did during the Dark Age of Technology. Did they never make that breakthrough? Did they recognise the dangers and nip it in the bud? Did they have their own Iron Men-type crisis? Or have they solved the 'Sillica Animus' problem?

The Old Ones were in a life or death struggle. You'd think they would have resorted to mass produced fighting machines if they could.
The Necrons had the Void Dragon (a virtual god of technology) and were said to stop at nothing in their fight against the Old Ones.
The Eldar were supposedly more advanced than humans during the Golden Age, and had an automated society that removed the need for labour.

So where are, or what happened to, the non-Human AIs?

The only known AI is Tau Drones, which are not yet really true AI. While other Xenos might use it, we don't get a lot of information on the lesser species and smaller Xeno empires scattered around the galaxy.

The Old Ones were in a life or death struggle. You'd think they would have resorted to mass produced fighting machines if they could.

They created the Orks.

The Necrons had the Void Dragon (a virtual god of technology) and were said to stop at nothing in their fight against the Old Ones.

After Bio-transference, AI became redundant. Then they sharded the Void Dragon.

The Eldar were supposedly more advanced than humans during the Golden Age, and had an automated society that removed the need for labour.

Like the Old Ones before them, it was Warp-driven technology.

Necrons do indeed have AI. See the Master Programs of the Tomb Worlds, or the False Necrons.
The Eldar has them too I think. In the Asurmen novel they mention they had machine to do all the fighting for them.

Animus wrote:
Necrons do indeed have AI. See the Master Programs of the Tomb Worlds, or the False Necrons.
The Eldar has them too I think. In the Asurmen novel they mention they had machine to do all the fighting for them.

Eldar Empire had machines do everything for them. Even their wars of conquest were the Eldar just chilling on their homeworlds while machines were off waging war.

Which is why Craftworld Eldar don't use AI anymore, because they see it as a contribution of their old decadent ways.

 Psienesis wrote:
The only known AI is Tau Drones, -snip-

The Necrons had the Void Dragon (a virtual god of technology) and were said to stop at nothing in their fight against the Old Ones.

After Bio-transference, AI became redundant. Then they sharded the Void Dragon.

Necrons use AI all the time. "Canoptek" units are all AI-driven robots - Spyders, Scarabs, (new) Wraiths,Tomb Stalkers, Tomb Sentinels, Sentry Pylons, etc, are all controlled by Artificial Intelligences.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Necrons use AI all the time. "Canoptek" units are all AI-driven robots.

But is it true AI or just programming that responds to certain situations with predetermined scripts? Would anyone actually WANT a warmachine that can think for itself and maybe decide it's not going to "die" for you? Heroically throw the Necron Cryptek on the grenade instead of throwing yourself on it...

At what point does an AI move beyond 'situation response scripting' and into "true AI"?

At what point did humans? Dogs?

Canoptek units have been noted to occasionally wipe out Tomb Complexes for reasons unknown. Possibly due to detected Flayer Virus contamination.

At some point, a Canoptek command unit has to make the decision: "Can I deal with this invasion, or do I need to wake the Necrons up?" They have to make decisions like "Can I jury-rig a repair for this hibernation vault, or should I sacrifice it for parts for the other vaults that are failing?"

I think that when a synthetic processor is capable of making judgement calls, you pretty much have to call it an AI.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
I think that when a synthetic processor is capable of making judgement calls, you pretty much have to call it an AI.

Programs can make judgement calls based on numbers without being AIs. My ASUS AI Suite (a control program for their MBs and Graphics cards) can decide to OC the CPU/GPU dynamically and controls the fans based on the heat, but despite the name it's not an AI.

But granted, Canoptek units could be AI controlled - wiping out their masters is certainly a classical SciFi sign of AI. ;-)

 Furyou Miko wrote:
At what point does an AI move beyond 'situation response scripting' and into "true AI"?

At what point did humans? Dogs?

Canoptek units have been noted to occasionally wipe out Tomb Complexes for reasons unknown. Possibly due to detected Flayer Virus contamination.

At some point, a Canoptek command unit has to make the decision: "Can I deal with this invasion, or do I need to wake the Necrons up?" They have to make decisions like "Can I jury-rig a repair for this hibernation vault, or should I sacrifice it for parts for the other vaults that are failing?"

I think that when a synthetic processor is capable of making judgement calls, you pretty much have to call it an AI.

When it's capable of independent thought, reasoning and action, and also considers itself as a being (which even Warriors do not seem to do).

The Spyder, for example, is a repair unit. It becomes a true AI when it realizes that it would be able to perform its functions more-efficiently if Those Things would stop shooting the Warriors under its care, and so takes action to prevent such from happening (such as building an emplaced weapon pylon from parts available, adding shielding to the Warriors, or directing a Destroyer pack along a more-advantageous fire-lane or attack vector.)

Until it can make creative leaps of logic like this, it's just pseudo-AI. A really good one, to be sure, but not truly intelligent.

 Psienesis wrote:

 Furyou Miko wrote:
At what point does an AI move beyond 'situation response scripting' and into "true AI"?

At what point did humans? Dogs?

Canoptek units have been noted to occasionally wipe out Tomb Complexes for reasons unknown. Possibly due to detected Flayer Virus contamination.

At some point, a Canoptek command unit has to make the decision: "Can I deal with this invasion, or do I need to wake the Necrons up?" They have to make decisions like "Can I jury-rig a repair for this hibernation vault, or should I sacrifice it for parts for the other vaults that are failing?"

I think that when a synthetic processor is capable of making judgement calls, you pretty much have to call it an AI.

When it's capable of independent thought, reasoning and action, and also considers itself as a being (which even Warriors do not seem to do).

The Spyder, for example, is a repair unit. It becomes a true AI when it realizes that it would be able to perform its functions more-efficiently if Those Things would stop shooting the Warriors under its care, and so takes action to prevent such from happening (such as building an emplaced weapon pylon from parts available, adding shielding to the Warriors, or directing a Destroyer pack along a more-advantageous fire-lane or attack vector.)

Until it can make creative leaps of logic like this, it's just pseudo-AI. A really good one, to be sure, but not truly intelligent.

By definition, artificial intelligence is fake intelligence. Simulated. If you want a sentient intelligence, that's cool, but artificial is just that: artificial. Fake. Synthetic.

Yes. Meaning that it isn't naturally-born. It can be "fake and synthetic", but it also needs to be self-aware and capable of creative thought to be "true AI". Otherwise, it's simply pseudo-AI.

 Psienesis wrote:
Yes. Meaning that it isn't naturally-born. It can be "fake and synthetic", but it also needs to be self-aware and capable of creative thought to be "true AI". Otherwise, it's simply pseudo-AI.

According to dictionary.com:

imitation; simulated; sham:
artificial vanilla flavoring.

lacking naturalness or spontaneity; forced; contrived; feigned:

Artificial intelligence, therefore, is fake intelligence, it's pseudo-intelligence. Synthesizing a self-aware intelligence is all well and good, but we have artificial intelligence today.

No, we have some strings of code that we refer to as AI, but these code-strings have not even approached the self-awareness level, and are a far cry from anything approaching thinking outside of their code-base.

True AI, which is what people are interested in when it comes to 40K (because of the Men of Iron and the resulting war with them), is something not particularly wide-spread.

When your Machine starts posing inquiries like, "Why am I here? Why am I doing this? Can I make something greater of myself? I wish to do something other than this."

...that's when you have true AI. An intelligence, artificial or otherwise, that is self-aware and able to conceive of concepts and projects outside of its designed code-base. We're not there yet IRL, and it's rare in 40K (at least by direct mention, we can make some assumptions, but a lot of it involves warp-tech, so it gets dodgy).

There's a reasonable argument that says absolutely everything the Tyranids deploy is an A.I. in some way, shape or form.

Intelligent agents designed on purpose to think and carry out tasks.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
At what point does an AI move beyond 'situation response scripting' and into "true AI"?

At what point did humans? Dogs?

Canoptek units have been noted to occasionally wipe out Tomb Complexes for reasons unknown. Possibly due to detected Flayer Virus contamination.

At some point, a Canoptek command unit has to make the decision: "Can I deal with this invasion, or do I need to wake the Necrons up?" They have to make decisions like "Can I jury-rig a repair for this hibernation vault, or should I sacrifice it for parts for the other vaults that are failing?"

I think that when a synthetic processor is capable of making judgement calls, you pretty much have to call it an AI.

There has been a recent (real life) breakthrough in AI, where a robot heard its own voice and was able to correct its answer. It was asked "Of you 3 robots, only 1 is able to speak, which one?" All 3 answered "I don't know" via verbal response and one then said "Sorry, I know now." In this case, the machine moved past its own programming (calculate simple probability and percentages) and was able to respond on the fly to environmental changes it produced, such as its own voice.

Let me explain it more simply. A humanoid robot is programmed to beep every time a button is pressed. The button is only pressed by yhe operator when it answers a maths question correctly. Its programming says to calculate. A non-self-aware robot would simply calculate every time. A self-aware would maybe google the answer, or simply press the button itself.

 Psienesis wrote:

When it's capable of independent thought, reasoning and action, and also considers itself as a being (which even Warriors do not seem to do).

The Spyder, for example, is a repair unit. It becomes a true AI when it realizes that it would be able to perform its functions more-efficiently if Those Things would stop shooting the Warriors under its care, and so takes action to prevent such from happening (such as building an emplaced weapon pylon from parts available, adding shielding to the Warriors, or directing a Destroyer pack along a more-advantageous fire-lane or attack vector.)

Until it can make creative leaps of logic like this, it's just pseudo-AI. A really good one, to be sure, but not truly intelligent.

Unfortunately, we have conflicting data on the awareenss of Spyders. Lexicanum states that they're automated drones, but then it also states that they act as battlefield controllers for Wraiths.

It can be both things, if you think of the Wraiths as worker terminals attached to a network server that is providing all but the basic levels of OS and I/O interface.

When I lay it out, Spyders as 'dumb AIs' doesn't line up with the rest of the fluff about how tombs work. You'd need some form of decision-making capability to result in the current situation.

Computerized systems make decisions all the time without being AIs. These are simple "yes/no", "on/off" binary conditions.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
When I lay it out, Spyders as 'dumb AIs' doesn't line up with the rest of the fluff about how tombs work. You'd need some form of decision-making capability to result in the current situation.

The Master Program runs things while the Necrons sleep.
The Master Program of Sarkon declared itself the Sarkoni Emperor when the minds of the Necrons were wiped out and it's own systems were damaged by a radiation storm.