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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/21 16:07:56
Subject: Re:Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Seeing them all together is just WIN WIN!  Quality and quantity
I would've personally preferred a tad brighter, redder red, but that's taste minutea.
Beautiful work!! Very inspirational for my own Legion army and the moment I finally get space for Airbrushing. Sooooooon.....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/21 17:52:46
Subject: Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
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Eggroll wrote:Thanks guys!
Thamor - The only primers I know of that you can run through an airbrush are the surface primers from Vallejo. I actually use the black one quite a bit to touch up some models in places where a spray primer has a hard time reaching. For the surface primers, Vallejo has other colours as well - one of which is called German Red Brown. I haven't used it though judging but the picture > http://www.acrylicosvallejo.com/blog/2011/01/surface-primer/ it could be close in colour to the Duplicolor can primer. Might be worth a shot.
Should keep in mind the surface primers are not as durable as the primers you get in a spray can. They're acrylic primers and from my experience, don't bond to the metal/resin/plastic surface as well as the sprays. Think it has something to do with the fact they don't use as many of the harsh chems that you find in spray cans but at least they don't stink when you spray them.
Might have to try some of that Red Brown, Looks very similar. Thanks
Can you think of any of the current VMC, VGC or VMA that would get close enough to your base coat with the Dupli-Colour? Something I can add the Blood Red highlight to.
Just another quick couple of questions if you don't mind, When your giving the red a shadfing with the Opaque Red and Opaque Black in a 50/50 mix do you just mask off the top half of what your shading and do a light spray to the bottom? And would VMC Black Red work for this step?
Once again lovely models and thanks for the help.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/21 19:25:52
Subject: Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Thanks migs. You actually don't need a big space for airbrushing, I do it in on my computer desk which is where I also paint. Just need to spend the extra time for setup/teardown which isn't that bad. Definitely look into getting a spot when you've moved into San Fran
Thamor - Not sure about any of the vallejo colour ranges. I barely use their paints as my preference is mostly with P3 and some GW paints. I'm pretty sure there are some online reference pages that will allow you to match colours between all the ranges though. As far as the duplicolour red goes I have no idea what would match it paint wise. I don't have anything in my current paint kit that would match 1:1. Closest would probably be GW Red Gore.
For shading, I never use any masking when applying paint to one single surface for highlights->midtones->shadows. Masking would defeat the purpose of using the airbrush as it allows you to have a gradual colour shift from your highlights to midtones to shadows. I only mask when I want to limit overspray across multiple surface areas (ie. different panels on a tank).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/21 22:05:57
Subject: Re:Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
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Thanks for the help Eggrol, Anything in production at the moment?
Got an idea for the red base coat. What do you think?
Carmine Red
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d-usa wrote:Orks are the GW version of R2D2. No matter how advanced the defenses may be, there is always an open serial port somewhere that can be pluged into and a firewall that was never configured. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/21 22:38:52
Subject: Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Fixture of Dakka
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Eggroll wrote:You actually don't need a big space for airbrushing, I do it in on my computer desk which is where I also paint.
Oh I didn't know that, la la la must not look at airbrushes
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/22 16:46:28
Subject: Re:Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/22 17:30:28
Subject: Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Beautiful! I love the use of landspeeder bits on the razorback, really clever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/23 05:43:50
Subject: Re:Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Gah!  awesome as per usual, I sometimes wonder if you tire of hearing positive comments each post!  but it's hard when everything you do manages to look so great! I can't even give you any constructive criticism  all 3 look excellent Eggy, the burn marks on the assault cannons are great! and the I particularly like the green shade you use for all the lenses it really stands out with the dark red you use for them, all in all, I wish i could shake your hand this army is so cohesive and looks so good!
keep it up!
Nerdfest09
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/23 11:16:12
Subject: Re:Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Great Eggs, as per.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/23 11:27:06
Subject: Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
Bobbing along on the briny North Sea, and Montrose, Scotland when home
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I see you like your Italian cars, Enzo on the Annhilator, for the Ferrari Enzo, Lambo after Lamborghini, on the predator destructor and Zonda on the Razorback, after the Pagani Zonda.
Nice cars and also your very nice models, the only thing is the guy in the razorback, his face looks a little pale and under detailed compared to the res of the model, is it due to the lighting? All the models are really stunning.
PS how do you do the really nice scriptwork, I am very envious
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/23 12:06:14
Subject: Re:Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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OM  G ........* Speachless *
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/23 16:09:18
Subject: Re:Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Thanks for all the comments guys!
nerdfest09 wrote:Gah!  awesome as per usual, I sometimes wonder if you tire of hearing positive comments each post!  but it's hard when everything you do manages to look so great! I can't even give you any constructive criticism  all 3 look excellent Eggy, the burn marks on the assault cannons are great! and the I particularly like the green shade you use for all the lenses it really stands out with the dark red you use for them, all in all, I wish i could shake your hand this army is so cohesive and looks so good!
keep it up!
Nerdfest09
Heh thanks, never get tired of them  . Keeps me motivitated. Burn marks were something I tried after seeing Redscorps do that with his LR. Also, there was a good post by Ron on FromTheWarp regarding the same effect. http://fromthewarp.blogspot.com/2011/09/how-to-paint-heat-stained-gun-barrels.html
dantay_xv wrote:I see you like your Italian cars, Enzo on the Annhilator, for the Ferrari Enzo, Lambo after Lamborghini, on the predator destructor and Zonda on the Razorback, after the Pagani Zonda.
Nice cars and also your very nice models, the only thing is the guy in the razorback, his face looks a little pale and under detailed compared to the res of the model, is it due to the lighting? All the models are really stunning.
PS how do you do the really nice scriptwork, I am very envious
Good eye dantay! Was wondering if someone would notice. Doing the names was something I had left till the end because I just couldn't figure out good names for them. I watch a lot of Top Gear and eventually figured Italian cars would make the perfect name so I went ahead with it. Since the BA tanks have overcharged engines or something like that it was very fitting
The driver's face is a bit washed out and not due to the photos. I didn't spend too much time on him as I was rushing in the end to finish up.
For the scriptwork my secret is just having a really good brush that holds a fine tip well and making sure I have proper paint loads in the brush. I've been doing all my painting with a Windsor & Newton Series 7 Size 0 brush for the last few months. The brushes last a very long time and holds a tip very well which comes in handy when doing tiny details. In fact, I'd rather have this brush for fine detail than some of the super tiny 10/0 brushes because the bigger brush size will hold paint better than the tiny ones. With a good brush and making sure you don't overload the brush with paint, you can be very precise with paint placement when painting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/23 16:18:01
Subject: Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
Bobbing along on the briny North Sea, and Montrose, Scotland when home
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Yay another Top Gear fan. The red of the Blood Angels does lend itself well to the car theme too. Many cool red ferraris out there.
Thanks for the tips on the brushes. There is a great art store in Dundee so I shall see what they have.
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Kanluwen wrote: What's that quote from Mauleed? "When you can make complete strangers on the Internet hate you, you know you're doing something magical."?
Hatemonger wrote: If that is true, then GW must be run by Gandalf and Nagash and Harry Potter and Tinker Bell, because this site alone is crapping rainbows worth of magical internet nerdrage.
- H8
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/23 18:49:01
Subject: Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
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grate,
Nice stuff eggroll! love to see more!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/25 21:27:20
Subject: Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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I have never seen such commitment to awesomeness across a single army. Do you paint other things between your BA models?
Quick question (another one that is): do you add the shade colour after the base colour? I have seen some people prime white, then pre-shade black before adding the base colour to get a similar effect.
PS, nice us of the Witch Hunter decal on the Razorback
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/26 05:56:30
Subject: Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Thanks Hazzer.
Luther - Thanks. I haven't painted any non BA models for over a year now I think. Been slowing collecting some grey knights since they've been released but haven't painted any yet. The witch hunters decal sheet is one of the best decal sheets around
Yes, I shade after I do the primer. I've seen the prime white and "preshade" method...not a fan as it's hard to judge what the final effect will be and correcting any mistakes is difficult as you'd have to repaint the areas white and preshade again and then colour.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/26 07:49:43
Subject: Re:Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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That's a good point. What do you use for your shade colour? I use Vallejo model air hull red and mahogany but both are more dark brown than dark red. They need satin varnish before they look as rich and 'deep red' as yours.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/26 15:50:42
Subject: Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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LutherMax - I use a 50/50 mix of black/red for shadows for the red areas. Not sure about the Vallejo range as I barely have any of their paints except a few metallics. Varnish is a good way to bring out some of the colour though as you mentioned, I always use gloss on my tanks followed by dull cote. Makes them "pop" a bit more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/26 15:57:33
Subject: Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Mounted Kroot Tracker
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Just now following this thread. Not a blood angel fam, simply because i suck at playing them... lol...but it would be damn fun to play the BEAUTIFULLY done army. my god. I wish i could paint tanks like you :( ... Am i correct to assume that alot of this work, especially vehicles, was done with an airbrush? Weathering too? and OSL on lights? Im sure you've answered all this and i apologize for asking only now, but id rather not sift through 25 pages of back posts  Im inspired by your work  Thanks for that!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/26 18:03:23
Subject: Re:Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Fantastic. You do such a great job combining the benefits of Airbrushing with the finish of brush work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/26 19:42:07
Subject: Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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bebopdrums - Yes, most of the work is done with an airbrush...including the weathering and OSL. No worries, take a look through the previous pages if you have time...there are lots of pretty pics
Thanks Migs!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/02 12:33:09
Subject: Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Brainless Zombie
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Well done. Those tanks look amazingly good.
Whole army is really great looking!
Congrats.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/03 04:59:57
Subject: Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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veelckoo wrote:Well done. Those tanks look amazingly good. Whole army is really great looking! Congrats.
Thanks Veelckoo. Another update, this time with some finished work as well as pics of some work in progress models. Finished these scouts two days ago and snapped a pic today. Actually like these guys quite a bit...my first models that I painted were sniper scouts 3 years ago so might have to buy another box of sniper scouts and paint them up again. Next up...some work in progress pics. Here's a Baal Pred box with the following:  - Fully magnetized Baal Pred - 9 Space Hulk Terminators - 2 metal sniper scouts - Old Space Marine metal captain - Sternguard Squad - Vanguard Squad - Games Day Sergeant - Scout Biker - Librarian with Power Sword And some more stuff...  - Terminator Captain - Chaplain with skull mask/bolt pistol - Chaplain with powerfist - Chaplain with plasma pistol - Chaplain on bike - Land speeder I like the chaplains  I've got all of the current range of chaplains. Trying to collect all the librarian models too...just missing the one with the power axe. That and Tycho are the only few HQ's left for me to collect from the current range.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/03 05:09:08
Subject: Re:Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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Beautiful just beautiful  . Love the conversion on the razorback and the weathering and shading perfect!!
Man you are a man on a mission look at all those marines cant wait to se more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/03 07:53:41
Subject: Re:Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
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Rarely see this size force done with such quality, kudos for you!
Nice looking stuff on the pipeline, really looking for what you can do with the Space Hulk terminators.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/03 09:45:03
Subject: Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
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Wow. I just finished my ultramarines scouts and posted an update on my blog the other day, and after seeing yours lol, the standard of your models is just phenominal! Fantastic as usual matey!
LDP
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/03 14:02:10
Subject: Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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I demand you slow down... I am falling more behind everyday!
Haven't touched a mini in like 6 week s:S
Given any more consideration to doing an 'attached' squad of a successor Chapter? I have decided to include 1 squad of Flesh Tearers, 1 Flesh Eaters, 1 Lamenters and 1 Angels Sanguine in my force... y'know whenever I finish my Space Hulk Project and start the BA lol.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/03 16:07:14
Subject: Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Thanks guys!
Tom - I've actually slowed down from the pace I had this summer. If it wasn't for school I'd have a lot more done by now. I also know you've been slacking, been eagerly waiting an update on that space hulk thread of yours though I guess you've got your hands full at the moment with the upcoming Tom Jr.
I haven't thought much about the successor squad yet. I think I'll probably do a simple 5 man tac squad with a Lamenter, Angels Sanguine, Flesh Tearer, Angels Encarmine and Blood Drinker marine all kited out with some decent weaponry and bionics. Almost sort of a deathwatch squad. Oh yeah, I also need to add Seth to my collection too. Soooo many models to paint.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/03 16:14:25
Subject: Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Wow amazing airbrush and conventional brush work. Can't wait to see your take on Seth and the sort of deathwatch squad sounds amazing!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/09 20:18:14
Subject: Eggroll's Blood Angels
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Your army must be huuuuge by now dude – running out of space in that cabinet yet?
Scouts look really nice... Very much looking forward to the Space Hulk Termies. I have those but I'm waiting until I've improved my skills enough to do them justice!
Quick question, do you use inks or washes or something to 'blackline' the little details – e.g. the little vents on infantry legs and such?
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