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Another victory for pvc

grefven wrote:
Unfortunately it looks terrible. This, together with AoW absolutely terrible customer service and communication, it's constant delay of crowdfunding fullfilment might actually put another nail in their coffin. It's very sad, I think, as I like their miniatures. Just not in this sad material.

 Alpharius wrote:
Agreed!

I'm REALLY glad I didn't jump in on this campaign now...

+1
I don't like this PVC at all since I've seen it up close (both material and shrinked models put me off), a friend of mine got the Corrupters some days ago (finally!), he was so enthusiastic but the final result is definitely not worth neither the wait nor the money.
As for the immense delays etc, imho this business has simply gotten too much to chew on and is making one mistake over the next. I don't know if they simply can't pull it together anymore or if their reaching out more than they should has put their financial health in a simply very bad state...

Maybe AoW should wholesale their plastic slayer sprues to someone who can actually market them worth a damn, it's a great kit that they've failed to do justice.

ronin1973 wrote:
I agree with Gutsy and Schmapdi too

Some close pictures of PVC corruptors from same blog:





Advice taken from the set of instructions inside of corrupters box: Note that the porous surface of PVC plastic might obscure the detail at a first glance. Only after being primed, PVC miniatures will perfectly show all its detail.

This is a very good product which has a superb ratio quality price, the rest are nonsense and create controversy where there is none... or at least that's what I think .

Schmapdi wrote:
I agree with Gutsy - clean it up, paint it and you wouldn't be able to tell them apart (aside from the size difference).

Unless you're an amazing, award winning painter the actual small level of detail loss won't be noticeable/detrimental.

The rest is just illusion, like how for 2 years people swore that finecast models were "sharper" than their metal equivalents.

agree as well. very good plastic kits at an awesome price.

for those few here who like aow, and, given the comments here might be worried about their financial status, i don't know the insiders, but i can tell from what i see: I very often visit their HQ to play warthrone and speak to the guys, and i can see the company is more than healthy, 8 full time staff by now (when I started visting them they were only 3) so that is close to a 300% growth
appart from the freelance staff that has also increased significantly.
i cant tell on other places, but many people here in spain are switching to warthrone, and their miniatures are in every hobby store all around the country.


btw, how cool is that multiquote feature, first time I use it

EDIT: actually the multiquote has not appeared , i have done it manually now, so i'll have to see how it works

Always appreciate your insider posts, Adder Ant! (I mean that genuinely, in case it's hard to tell in text)

Although that is close to 200%

The corrupters look decent, but the hard plastic slayers are just amazing. I know it's not practical for them to do that for all their kits, though.

Not that the pictures above make it any better, I also see this picture below and it's the same as my friend's newly arrived (and placed on the shelf) models. The quality is definitely not there, and I wouldn't really mind if some minor preparation work had to be done to fix that up, but in the end what you get is what you get, not much you can do about that unless you can turn PVC into something else. Detail is horrible in quite a lot of places in fact.



Another thing I really disliked about the company (I used to be a great fan of these guys, it has been very long since I ordered anything from them) is taking pics from precise angles or having these YouTube videos uploaded often shot from a distance, so you can't really tell. You see tiny companies compared to AoW (another spanish one I think is BlackChapel and their respect to the client actually showing from all angles the miniatures available makes the veteran company look like an amateur...). The guys from this company (and many other companies like them) even go into actually painting their miniatures, something AoW has long forgotten the meaning of. Cutting costs from all corners obviously.

@Adder Ant I like the fact they are growing as you say, but having 8 full time staff members also means 8 full-time salaries (judging from their legendary delays they should hire more!). This inevitably has caused the backslide on their quality as everyone continuously points out in order to decrease their tooling costs (I don't collect WoC but if I did these would not be on my list and same goes for the Witch Elf strippers if I were a DE player, I'd buy a hero or two probably but nothing more than that).

This augmentation of stuff also means an inevitable increase in either sales and/or prices too in order to justify it. Judging from my gaming group who don't really care much about AoW any more (especially after their IGG failure) sales aren't doing too great. And you really think AoW is cheap?! Lol. Yes, I understand that comparing them to the big company they are making copies might have once made them look cheaper, but that was some 2-3 years ago! What exactly makes these Corruptors or Pathfinders (apart the fact they don't have unproxied counterparts) cheaper than their counterparts? Wayland delivers 12 WoC for 17 pounds (around 20 euros). Let's see... oh, it is actually as expensive as they are (and for lower quality)! So, buying from a distributor and paying 35 euros for 20 PVC minis is definitely not cheap, and making GW look a better value for money takes effort. Way to go.

I used to play dwarfs a while back (before the great horned rat called upon me ), I remember me buying their Slayers 25euros for 20 minis. And those were real plastic minis, not PVC! There was an update AoW had posted some time ago, claiming that Renedra was too expensive and they were moving into cheaper tooling costs. Oh great! That would mean lower prices, right? Ehhhh... no?

Cheaper tooling doesn't mean cheaper minis

Sining wrote:
Cheaper tooling doesn't mean cheaper minis

Just higher profit! Booyaa!

And PVC claims another victim!