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Those are some ugly harpies. Given the talk of bat wings I wouldn't be surprised if Mantic's are going to be the same style.

 AlexHolker wrote:
Those are some ugly harpies.

Well, to be fair, Harpies are supposed to be ugly.
Then again, I use Reaper Succubi (mostly Sophies) for my Harpies.

Mr Gutsy wrote:
Well they did release this image of the iron shield dwarves a month ago, but for some some reason they only posted it on their own forums and their Facebook page. I think its pretty lazy of them to not even bother uploading it to the IGG page, i mean these people did help fund the kit after all...

Dang

I have pretty much decided that funds towards the end of next year will go to an AoW dwarf army. Contingent on two things:

1) They actually release the darn models
2) I can buy them somewhere other than direct

If so... those sculpts are "Take my money" awesome. But not enough to overcome 1 and 2 above. No way I'm preordering from this company............

 Kroothawk wrote:

 AlexHolker wrote:
Those are some ugly harpies.

Well, to be fair, Harpies are supposed to be ugly.

Both are valid, although the not-ugly ones appear to have come first by at least a few hundred years.

I'm not so sure about the harpies, but the dwarves and the not-Warriors of Nurgle are very impressive indeed.

Have there been any signs that AoW are addressing the issues they've evidently had meeting demand?

 English Assassin wrote:
Have there been any signs that AoW are addressing the issues they've evidently had meeting demand?

Around the start of their IGG campaign, they said they'd bought a second casting machine and hired a dedicated WarCaster.

Well, according to their website, the harpies are "in stock" and "ships within 24-48 hours".

Anyone want to give that a spin and see what actually happens? :p

 Alpharius wrote:
They really should spread that image around - they look great!

Now, if only WFB 8th was actually worth playing...

More worthwhile than warhammer 40,000 has been since 3rd ed still despite the negative sides of 8th

I'm still tempted by getting hold of some of their not chaos warriors, but am convinced I wouldn't see them till 2014 with my kind of luck. They really should sell to stockists, the dwarf not slayers are availavbe from them after all.

G'day,

Personally I think those harpies look great; I don't play Dark Elves, Beastmen or Daemons, so they're not much use to me. But they look vicious, nasty and ugly, which is how I think Harpies should look, and they look like they're actually flying, which is a bonus for a flying unit......

Regarding the debacle that was the release of the Warcast Apoc Warriors, Avatars of War have realised the scale of the problem, and taken some pretty strong steps to remedy the situation. They increased their production with an extra machine, but also redesigned the Apoc Warriors to reduce the production load (and make them easier to rank up, which was a real problem). Here's what Felix said on his forum at http://www.avatars-of-war.com/eng/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=913;

Finally, our WarCast production is very good now, with 4 full time employees dedicated to it. It is for example much bigger than metal casting.

The problem with Apoc has been the too high number of pieces per box (around 160) which makes its production a total nightmare. For example, to produce 1000 boxes in a month we need to be able to cast 8.000 pieces per day. We have a high production but not that high!

Well, to sort this we have postponed all Warcast releases, and redesigned the Apoc boxes to 65-70 pieces each: They are still multipose, rank easier, much faster to assemble, and are much more robust when assembled (so i think it has been a very good step).

You can check here for example a vid. showing the new redesigned Warriors of Apoc with 2 weapons:
http://www.avatars-of-war.com/eng/web/i ... Itemid=120

We hope to resume WarCast releases during September!

So the Apoc Warriors should be available again for normal purchasing, soon if not already. When I finish my current army, I'll definitely be buying some boxes of these.

Cheers,

That actually sounds a bit of an issue too

If you'de preordered some on the basis of what you'd seen of the originals (160 bits per box) you might well fell dissapointed if when they finally showed up they were NOT what you thought you were getting......

unless he contacted all the pre-orderers and offered a refund or the 'new' versions ?

Those dwarfs look awesome

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
That actually sounds a bit of an issue too

If you'de preordered some on the basis of what you'd seen of the originals (160 bits per box) you might well fell dissapointed if when they finally showed up they were NOT what you thought you were getting......

unless he contacted all the pre-orderers and offered a refund or the 'new' versions ?

My take on it is that they manufactured the preorders as advertised, and while that was grinding slowly to completion, reconfigered the Apoc Warriors into their new design (with 65-70 bits). It wasn't just the production bottleneck that made them do this, they were also getting a lot of feedback on ranking the units and how much time it took to assemble a box (many hours.....).

I know AoW copped a lot of flak for the Apoc pre-orders and the delivery delay, and rightfully so. But their added production and the willingness to reconfigure the excellent Apoc Warrior box hopefully means that this won't happen again. Time will tell on that of course, but I know that I'll be buying from them in future. I'm wondering what the Torment Warriors are going to look like. I want a Slaaneshi Chaos army, and AoW look perfect for Dominant Bob and the Manlove Legion.

I remain extremely interested in this company, despite their production problems, due to the fantastic nature of their sculpts. I hope they sell all the dwarfs they're producing (since they're slated to do quite a number after the Indiegogo campaign!) to distributors... with the rumors about a new dwarf book for fantasy, they'd do really well!

Alongside the new models, which they really should make available to distributors, it's also the rules they are said to be working on which interest me. As they happen to have races which coincide with GW stuff I already own, could be playing pretty fast too .

Perhaps something along the lines of free pdf rulebooks while it is in playtesting to get players feedback like mantic did and pdf the army lists they have armies for/are working on would go a long way to helping AoW too.

Ahh some more Dorf pics!

Ehh.. Totally disappointed with these dwarves. The legs look totally off and their waist look quite strange, too.

No, they look rushed and poorly executed.

grefven wrote:
Ehh.. Totally disappointed with these dwarves. The legs look totally off and their waist look quite strange, too.

No, they look rushed and poorly executed.

Yes, but to be fair any dwarf looks good to a die hard dwarf player. GW has pushed back the dwarf book for awhile now and probably won't be out till end of 2013 or beginning of 2014.
So any suitable model for dwarf plastics is worth dwarf players to be excited

I like the harpies a lot. I'm happy with the ugly, twisted appearance; that seems in line with the dark elf army, that tortures and twists beasts to their will.

The positions are quite dynamic, and haven't simply been posted on tall objects to give the impression of "flight". I'm sure the price will bring tears to my eyes, but I would definitely pick up some of those if my LGS brings them in.

Those dwarfs look a little funky, the heads, weapons and shields are great, but the legs don't look so good.

The chainmail could be better-sculpted, and all the legs just look like a giant skirt with 2 little toe caps sticking out.

Is it wrong that I am already waiting for the Warpath kickstarter even though I have over 300 minis already coming to me through this and a couple of other ks?

You'll probably get the figures from the Warpath KS before you get the ones from AoW anyway...

Those Bronzeshield warriors are pretty disappointing, im really hoping AOW aren't just rushing these kits out to meet their January 2013 deadline. I'd rather wait a few months than wind up with sub-par miniatures.

This is actually something that im concerned might affect Mantic in a few months, with both dreadball and Kings of war (and to a lesser extent Warpath.) expecting tons of models im worried to avoid potentially having to delay either waves of miniatures Mantic might choose to produce lower quality models to save time.

Not trying to talk 'gak' about Mantic, they've been producing some great high quality stuff over the past year but a lot of their earlier stuff is pretty swing and miss. And its very easy to fall back into old bad habits when under pressure.

I think that's a valid concern, and I brought the same one up in regard to "Betty" in the Bombshell Babes KS. On the other hand, Mantic's newer KoW and DreadBall greens that have been shown are (mostly) the best figures they've shown in their catalogue to date. Aside from some questionable ones like the Female Vampire's head, Mantic's new stuff is quite impressive.

Something about the bronzeshields looks really rough and rushed.

The only thing that really bothers me about the bronze shields is that one dwarf in the left corner. His leg looks weird, and his head looks too low.

The rest all look fine to me.

 Commander Cain wrote:
Is it wrong that I am already waiting for the Warpath kickstarter even though I have over 300 minis already coming to me through this and a couple of other ks?

Ah. It seems I found the wrong thread. Great looking dwarves anyway!

After the Harpies, today the Corruptors of Apocalypse were released (17 for 30€):
http://www.avatars-of-war.com/eng/web/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&prodcode=pl03-gw&prodname=Corrupters+of+Apocalypse&id=118&Itemid=120&teMando=1


I am not sure if the Warriors of Apoc have been available in all 4 different boxes with the following weapon choices (well they are all out of stock currently):
1.) Halberds (37.50 €) http://www.avatars-of-war.com/eng/web/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&prodcode=pl02-al&prodname=Warriors+of+Apoc+with+halberds&id=118&Itemid=120
2.) Great Weapons (37.50 €) http://www.avatars-of-war.com/eng/web/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&prodcode=pl02-2h&prodname=Warriors+of+Apoc+with+great+weapons&id=118&Itemid=120
3.) Great Shield (37.50 €) http://www.avatars-of-war.com/eng/web/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&prodcode=pl02-ws&prodname=Warriors+of+Apoc+with+weapon+and+shield&id=118&Itemid=120
4.) Two Hand Weapons (37.50 €) http://www.avatars-of-war.com/eng/web/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&prodcode=pl02-2w&prodname=Warriors+of+Apoc+with+two+weapons&id=118&Itemid=120

Great, another product that no one will be able to buy because there's never any stock. It's a shame because this company makes some beautiful models.

Okay, seems I missed the command and the hero the first time:

RoninXiC wrote:
Since AoW completely fails at promoting their own amazing miniatures, I think it's neccessary to post their newest stuff here.


17 hardplastic for 30 €


3 command models for 12.5€


1 hero in white meal for 11.95€

Buy them here: http://www.avatars-of-war.com/eng/web/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=3

Uh, looks like I missed this thread completely... sorry for the additional topic!