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I have always heard that nurgle is like Santa clause and that he loves all of his followers, but is that true? How much more or less does he for example comparing the emperor, primarchs, or other chaos gods?
Ohh and what rank is after changing our legions name?

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Nurgle is by far the most kindly of the Chaos gods. He is frequently described as a doting and proud parent of his demons and followers, happy to give them gifts (plagues) and angry when forces try to get in the way of his children's' progress. Even Nurgle demons who screw up and make the choice to become a Soul Grinder (basically selling themselves into slavery) are regarded by Nurgle with a sympathetic chuckle.

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Nurgle is depicted as a jovial, loving father. He is said to love all of his followers, so yes that is true. When Ku'Gath plaguefather fell into Nurgle's cauldron and drank his most virulent plague ever, Nurgle merely laughed and was amused. When Skarbrand made a tiny break in Khorne's armour, he hurled him across the chaos realms and exiled him for all time. I would say that most definitely Nurgle loves his followers more than any other powerful godlike character in the game. There are mentions of the other gods punishing their followers for mistakes or betrayals yet ive never come across a reference to nurgle doing the same thing.

Great Unclean Ones are also supposed to be happy and jovial on the battlefield, and the nurglings love them like a father.


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The emperor is perhaps the most evil character in the game, haha. His followers are in a terrible state. Sanguinus however inspired fierce loyalty in his men and could be considered to care for his followers and have them care for him. The chapter is actually physically weakened by his absence.


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Edit: the emperor i guess is not necessarily directly evil, it's just that the imperium is an evil regime.

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Yes. It's been stated repeatedly in the fluff that nurgle has a very fatherly attitude towards ALL his followers

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Nurgle can get mad. IIRC Epidemus' fluff mentions that Nurgle's anger when someone screws up is why his nurglings with Epidemus are very serious about their work (because they don't want to piss Nurgle off), and Nurgle transformed the glottkin into flies and shoved them into jars as anger for their failure. He also vents his anger on plague toads bu stomping them when he's in a bad mood because the great game went badly for him that day.

That said, he apparently forgave the Glottkin eventually since they're back in Age of Sigmar, and even other Nurgle followers don't like plague toads. Even fathers get mad at their children sometimes, I guess?



   
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Nurgle loves his followers in the manner an overbearing mother loves her children, they can never leave the house and must always adore her, even if it stunts their growth.

Nurgle loves his children in the same manner as a manic depressive uses humour to brush off their deep feelings of inadequacy and self loathing, wanting to appear happy inspite of the terrible hurt they feel.

Nurgle loves it's followers in the same manner as a partner who watches there lovers every move and will jealously obsess over them, even causing them pain or hurting them.

Nurgle is the God of life, depression, feeling that the whole world is meaningless and just wants you to accept that nothing will change, it will be that way no matter what you do, so what's the point?

Or if you go with the codex writers who know nothing about the actual fluff....plague raaaa, fat blokes ewwww, puss....kkkeeeewwwlll...
   
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Also note that nugle loves the plague organisms as much - or more - than the person infected with them.

So, if you're suffering.....oh well.

Remember that Nurgle offers you the chance to not die. That's not quite the same as 'survive'.

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My favorite old bit I read somewhere is how when you're dying by his plagues you can hear Nurgle chuckling at your suffering, but once you embrace him and give in, his voice becomes softer and more comforting and consoling.
   
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 Nightlord1987 wrote:
My favorite old bit I read somewhere is how when you're dying by his plagues you can hear Nurgle chuckling at your suffering, but once you embrace him and give in, his voice becomes softer and more comforting and consoling.


God, that is creepy. It's like some voice urging you to give in, then luring you closer once your will starts to break. Man, nurgle might just be the most terrifying chaos god. I mean, he can't throw his weight around like Khorne, but true horror is in subtlety.

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The "emotion" that Nurgle embodies is that of accepting your fate; sure, your life sucks, but if you just accept it and stop worrying about it, you'll feel "better".

That's why it's opposed to Tzeentch, which is all about plotting and scheming to change your circumstances, to try to escape from whatever situation you're in.
   
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But why plagues? Its not exactly FUN when you are infected.

Do you remember the last time you were sick? I know when I was last sick I was always miserable. Its much harder to be happy when there's always that off feeling off sickness.

So basically:
Why does a caring god not be like the god of something else?

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 WarbossDakka wrote:
But why plagues? Its not exactly FUN when you are infected.

Do you remember the last time you were sick? I know when I was last sick I was always miserable. Its much harder to be happy when there's always that off feeling off sickness.

So basically:
Why does a caring god not be like the god of something else?


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Nurgle loves the little children,
All the children of the world,
Red, yellow, black and white,
They'll be rotting given time,
Nurgle loves the little children of the world!

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Yeah, Nurgle loves his children but it's probably not the kind of love you want. Like all Chaos he corrupts, seeking to twist free-willed life forms to his servitude.

Nurgle is the god of life and decay. The circle of life, really. That includes all life: pox, contagions, parasites and plagues, viruses and bacteria and aoemebas included.

Nurgle doesn't show favoritism to more developed life forms like humans. Germs gotta live too, and he's always cooking up more new life forms in his 'kitchen'. I wouldn't be surprised if he creates flowers and trees and plants and animals as well, but all are twisted to his preferred diseased, pustulant forms. I suspect such advanced life forms are more undertaken as works of curiosity or art than to expand Nurgle's kingdom.

The more complex life forms are less successful in the sense that they are less virulent, expand less rapidly and thus increase Nurgle's grasp more slowly. Plants would be of interest primarily as propogators and pollinators on a world. Animals are mostly useful as reservoirs to carry his microscopic children to new worlds. Plague Marines would be prized reservoirs because they are so tough and resistant they can carry plagues that would slay weaker animal hosts.

In a way Nurgle's an anti-tyranid. Tyranids don't create anything new, they just devour and evolve. Nurgle creates diversity, while Tyranids strip worlds of diversity and shoehorn the building blocks into their limited palette of life forms.

Guess I see Nurgle as a perverse creator-god compared to the other Chaos deities. But yes, in a foul, smothering way he loves his creations.

My two cents.

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 WarbossDakka wrote:
But why plagues? Its not exactly FUN when you are infected.

Do you remember the last time you were sick? I know when I was last sick I was always miserable. Its much harder to be happy when there's always that off feeling off sickness.

So basically:
Why does a caring god not be like the god of something else?


Nurgle stands for rot and decay, and the change in brings. The reason his putrescent body hasn't fallen apart is because it heals even as it rots. In the same manner, he infects his followers with his gifts- strains of virulent diseases that mutate the body, decompose it beyond recognition... but also preserve it for eternity. You may be uncomfortable with it at first, but you'll never feel pain. Never feel stuck again. Never feel alone. You'll always be a changing, living thing, an organism that lives on and perdures through the horrible disease you've taken.

And that's what Nurgle loves. Change and the decay of existence... only to build a new one to rot again.
   
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 urbanknight4 wrote:

Nurgle stands for rot and decay, and the change in brings. The reason his putrescent body hasn't fallen apart is because it heals even as it rots. In the same manner, he infects his followers with his gifts- strains of virulent diseases that mutate the body, decompose it beyond recognition... but also preserve it for eternity. You may be uncomfortable with it at first, but you'll never feel pain. Never feel stuck again. Never feel alone. You'll always be a changing, living thing, an organism that lives on and perdures through the horrible disease you've taken.

And that's what Nurgle loves. Change and the decay of existence... only to build a new one to rot again.



Mmmh, not quite. Nurgle stands for stagnation and the constant inevitability of death and the despair that that inevitability brings. He is focused around accepting one's fate and realizing that nothing can affect the outcome of death's decaying embrace. This is the exact opposite of Tzeentch, his prime enemy, who represents fluidity and the ability to alter or change one's fate. Change is anathema to Nurgle because it is pointless. There's no point in trying to change anything because we all end up in the same place; decaying and rotten in the ground. No matter what change occurs in anything, it all ends up the same; dead, decrepit, and wasted away. Nurgle's followers realize this and give into his embrace after realizing that it is the only true choice. To fight against the disease is to fight against the inevitability of death. Life is simply a path to reach the ultimate goal of all things, and Nurgle offers them a way to reach that goal quicker.

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