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Made in au
Longtime Dakkanaut





Melbourne, Australia

Hey guys, just after some clarification for reactive models being shot from behind if anyone can help.

So, bearing in mind that if an active models moves behind an enemy and beyond its zone of control it's can't react, but can it react if shot at?

I'm imagining it couldn't (template blasts notwithstanding), but can it afterwards?

IE, active model shoots at back of enemy and misses. If that enemy couldn't attempt to Dodge the shot, can it now ARO? If so, with what actions?

Thanks in advance.

The galaxy is littered with the single-planet graveyards of civilisations which made the economically sensible decision not to explore space. 
   
Made in us
Nihilistic Necron Lord






If you shoot someone from behind and outside 8", they can not react at all while the shot is taking place. If they survive, either because the shooter missed or because they made armor or just have more than one wound, then they may change facing. Additionally anyone within 8" of them may chance facing as well. In both cases you only get this roll free change facing response if you did not make an ARO of any kind vs the attack.

 
   
Made in au
Longtime Dakkanaut





Melbourne, Australia

Great, thanks mate. But is the change facing free? I've noticed that Change Facing in N3 is a -3 Physical roll where it used to be free in N2, but the rulebook only states it's an ARO if an enemy enters a zone of control.

As good at the new new rule book is laid out there are still some gaps :(

The galaxy is littered with the single-planet graveyards of civilisations which made the economically sensible decision not to explore space. 
   
Made in us
Nihilistic Necron Lord






The change facing ARO for someone coming in to your ZoC requires the roll at -3 Phys. The change facing from from an attack outside your ZoC is not an ARO, happens after the attack is finished, and does not require a roll.

 
   
Made in au
Longtime Dakkanaut





Melbourne, Australia

Awesome, cheers dude!

The galaxy is littered with the single-planet graveyards of civilisations which made the economically sensible decision not to explore space. 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut





I think the change facing from surviving the attack is listed as "warning!"

http://wiki.infinitythegame.com/en/Warning

btw the wiki is super helpful!
   
Made in us
PanOceaniac Hacking Specialist Sergeant



Indiana, U.S.A.

The Warning is actually another Model spending its ARO to allow other friendly Models in its Zone of Control to Change Facing for free.

   
Made in us
Nihilistic Necron Lord






BrandonKF wrote:
The Warning is actually another Model spending its ARO to allow other friendly Models in its Zone of Control to Change Facing for free.


That's Alert.

 
   
Made in gb
Devastating Dark Reaper





 AduroT wrote:
If you shoot someone from behind and outside 8", they can not react at all while the shot is taking place. If they survive, either because the shooter missed or because they made armor or just have more than one wound, then they may change facing. Additionally anyone within 8" of them may chance facing as well. In both cases you only get this roll free change facing response if you did not make an ARO of any kind vs the attack.


If the 'Warning!' rule is only usable if you do not make an ARO of any kind vs the attack, could the following situation occur:

My opponent manages to get a trooper behind one of my heavy infantry inside his zone of control, and proceeds to open fire. Deciding that my odds of beating my opponent in a face to face roll are pretty low with change facing (maybe he has a high rate of fire and a good modifier), would I be able to NOT declare an ARO, hoping that I survive his salvo, and therefore turn around for free due to the 'Warning!' rule. Otherwise, due to what the intent of the rule sounds like, by trying to change facing, I'm making it easier for him to simply shoot my trooper again if I have the fortune to survive!

Assuming I even am allowed to do this, would any of you recommend taking the risk?
   
Made in us
Nihilistic Necron Lord






That how it works iirc. You can try to make the Change Facing roll to also dodge his attack, or you can hope to survive the hail of bullets and turn around with no roll. The choice I'd make would depend on the specific situation, but I'd probably go for the roll in most.

 
   
 
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