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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/31 22:34:12
Subject: Imperial currency
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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Do we have any information on Imperial money? Obviously, there would be local currency of all kinds (from actual physical metals all the way to purely digital), but what about an official currency utilized all throughout the Imperium?
And, I swear to God, if somebody says credits, I'm going to stop doing 40k altogether. Every space sci-fi in the history of ever has used credits, and I'm getting sick of it.
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To quote a fictional character... "Let's make this fun!"
Tactical_Spam wrote:There was a story in the SM omnibus where a single kroot killed 2-3 marines then ate their gene seed and became a Kroot-startes.
We must all join the Kroot-startes... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/31 23:14:03
Subject: Imperial currency
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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I guess i just wont say it then
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/31 23:17:28
Subject: Imperial currency
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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There is none. There may be hive-wide currencies, or planet-wide currencies, or even sector-wide currencies, all of which having been shown in the lore. But above that, you're dealing wholly in goods and oaths.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/31 23:21:13
Subject: Imperial currency
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
What's left of Cadia
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There is no imperium wide currency (at least so far as we know). Each planet/system will have different currencies, beyond that it's trading goods/services/oaths
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TheEyeOfNight- I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes
TheEyeOfNight- "Ordo Xenos reports that the Necrons have attained democracy, kamikaze tendencies, and nuclear fission. It's all tits up, sir."
Space Marine flyers are shaped for the greatest possible air resistance so that the air may never defeat the SPACE MARINES!
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/31 23:37:08
Subject: Imperial currency
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Ruthless Interrogator
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The Imperium strikes me as more of a goods based economy.
Either that or I guess credits or bits or something like that.
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Space Marines: Jacks of all trades yet masters of GRAV CANNONS!!!.
My Star Wars Imperial Codex Project: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/641831.page
It has 7 HQs, 2 Troop types with Dedicated Transports, 5 Elite units, 5 Fast Attack units, 6 Heavy Support units, 2 Formations with unique units not in the rest of the codex, and 2 LOW choices.
‘I do not care who knows the truth now, tomorrow, or in ten thousand years. Loyalty is its own reward.’ -Lion El' Jonson |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/31 23:42:52
Subject: Re:Imperial currency
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Ultraviolent Morlock
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I've heard quite a few mentions of Throne Gelt here and there. Not sure if that's considered -the- currency, but that's all I know. Beyond what's already been stated, of course.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/31 23:49:22
Subject: Re:Imperial currency
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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EpicPursuit wrote:I've heard quite a few mentions of Throne Gelt here and there. Not sure if that's considered -the- currency, but that's all I know. Beyond what's already been stated, of course.
Thanks, I just found reference to coins called "Imperials, Thrones, and Gelts" used by nobles when I googled it.
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To quote a fictional character... "Let's make this fun!"
Tactical_Spam wrote:There was a story in the SM omnibus where a single kroot killed 2-3 marines then ate their gene seed and became a Kroot-startes.
We must all join the Kroot-startes... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/31 23:55:06
Subject: Re:Imperial currency
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Ultraviolent Morlock
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dusara217 wrote: EpicPursuit wrote:I've heard quite a few mentions of Throne Gelt here and there. Not sure if that's considered -the- currency, but that's all I know. Beyond what's already been stated, of course.
Thanks, I just found reference to coins called "Imperials, Thrones, and Gelts" used by nobles when I googled it.
No problem  . Glad to help out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/01 00:00:17
Subject: Re:Imperial currency
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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EpicPursuit wrote:I've heard quite a few mentions of Throne Gelt here and there. Not sure if that's considered -the- currency, but that's all I know. Beyond what's already been stated, of course.
Throne Gelt is the currency present in the Dark Heresy RPG by FFG, but is never stated to extend beyond the borders of the Calixis Sector.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/01 00:02:22
Subject: Re:Imperial currency
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Ultraviolent Morlock
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Psienesis wrote: EpicPursuit wrote:I've heard quite a few mentions of Throne Gelt here and there. Not sure if that's considered -the- currency, but that's all I know. Beyond what's already been stated, of course.
Throne Gelt is the currency present in the Dark Heresy RPG by FFG, but is never stated to extend beyond the borders of the Calixis Sector.
Yeah. That's what I thought. Still, better than nothing, eh?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/01 00:12:09
Subject: Imperial currency
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Indeed, though, given the fact that there's relatively few people in the Imperium who travel (like, less than 1/1000th of 1%), there's most-likely not an Imperium-wide currency. Doesn't need to be, really.
Guardsmen will travel across entire Segmentums, getting paid in a "scrip" that, itself, has no value, but can probably be traded by civilian merchants to lending-houses and Administratum offices for a pre-determined amount of whatever the local currency is.
RTs won't ever deal with something so crass as "cash", and will instead bargain raw materials, trade goods, contracts, favors and promises.
Feral Worlds probably don't have money or, if they do, it's something like a shiny rock that next to no one else in the galaxy values for anything. Inquisitors, Astartes, the Ecclesiarchy... these people either have near-endless bank accounts, or are otherwise so fantastically wealthy in the local planet/system/sub-sector economy that they never leave that they never have to actually pay for anything.
And so on. There's no real need for centralized banking (and in a place the size of the Imperium, there really couldn't be. Going to pay interest on a savings account after someone's been stuck in a Warp Storm for 1000 years, but has only been gone a week and a half?)
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/01 16:00:52
Subject: Imperial currency
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Battleship Captain
Oregon
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I thought blood and bodies was the currency of the Imperium.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/01 16:54:56
Subject: Re:Imperial currency
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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The closest the Imperium gets to using a proper universal currency is the Munitorum issuing a tithe "credit" voucher which is used to purchase material from the various worlds. This voucher can be turned in when the Tithe is due to show you've got some credit for it.
Aside from that, all currency will be limited to sector or sub-sector use. Trading between sectors people likely exchange currency for goods or precious metals as a universal form of exchange.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/01 17:19:15
Subject: Imperial currency
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'm fairly sure Oll Persson mentions his money and it was credits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/01 17:21:27
Subject: Re:Imperial currency
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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EpicPursuit wrote:I've heard quite a few mentions of Throne Gelt here and there. Not sure if that's considered -the- currency, but that's all I know. Beyond what's already been stated, of course.
I believe that comes from the Ravenor/Eisinhorn books. Thrones are the currency of the Helican sub-sector where Ravenor and Eisinhorn worked primarily so they got mentioned frequently.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/01 17:27:05
Subject: Re:Imperial currency
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Grey Templar wrote: EpicPursuit wrote:I've heard quite a few mentions of Throne Gelt here and there. Not sure if that's considered -the- currency, but that's all I know. Beyond what's already been stated, of course.
I believe that comes from the Ravenor/Eisinhorn books. Thrones are the currency of the Helican sub-sector where Ravenor and Eisinhorn worked primarily so they got mentioned frequently.
Could be. Abnett was involved in creating the first set of books for DH, and the Calixis Sector is right next door to the Ixaniad Sector, which is where Eisenhorn/Ravenor take place.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/01 17:29:14
Subject: Re:Imperial currency
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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You could also easily have multiple sector currency having the same name, but being a different currency all together.
Kinda like how Aussies and the US both have Dollars, but they're different currencies.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/03 10:37:42
Subject: Imperial currency
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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I doubt they would risk digital currencies - it doesn't quite fit the fluff imho.
Trade between systems would occur in whatever reserve currencies are acceptable, much like 50% of USD aren't actually in the US. PMs (gold and silver) have traditionally been the money accepted universally here, which would fit the flavour, if not necessarily the reality, of wh40k.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/03 13:23:43
Subject: Imperial currency
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Wing Commander
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I believe that the licenses allowing inter system trade are so rare (rogue traders) that you have a situation where a common currency actually isn't essential.
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Abadabadoobaddon wrote:Phoenix wrote:Well I don't think the battle company would do much to bolster the ranks of my eldar army  so no.
Nonsense. The Battle Company box is perfect for filling out your ranks of aspect warriors with a large contingent from the Screaming Baldies shrine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/03 14:21:58
Subject: Imperial currency
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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Requisition Points....
REK WE SIT SHUN PU ENTZ!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/03 16:15:25
Subject: Imperial currency
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Silverthorne wrote:I believe that the licenses allowing inter system trade are so rare (rogue traders) that you have a situation where a common currency actually isn't essential.
No, trade between different imperial systems is actually very common. Whats uncommon is trade with non-imperials, which is what only Rogue Traders are authorized to do.
Many Rogue Traders run massive internal shipping empires, along with trading with external entities.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/03 17:51:15
Subject: Imperial currency
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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I'm surprised no one has brought up the Emperor's currency
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/03 19:30:41
Subject: Imperial currency
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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It was, tangentially.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/03 21:38:07
Subject: Imperial currency
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Regular Dakkanaut
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As mentioned, aside from BL books the Dark Heresy RPG mentioned Throne Gelt prominently. There are also mentions of planetary or sector currencies as I recall.
The Imperium almost certainly has a de facto currency that is the 'gold standard' for interplanetary transacttions. Regulating trade, customs and tariffs is a basic function of any government, and the Imperium wouldn't miss out on such a lucrative opportunity for tithes and taxes.
To be honest there is a LOT of interplanetary commerce going on in the Imperium. Rogue Traders sometimes have charters within Imperial space. Chartist Captains always do. There are many references in the fluff to interplanetary trade and crime cartels. And, of course, the Ecclesiarchy and the various far-flung tendrils of the Administratum need common mediums of exchange that are acceptable across whole sectors.
Most likely Throne Gelt are in circulation primarily among great trading houses, bureaucrats, clergy, nobles and the military. The average dirt side Imperial citizen probably never lays a finger on such exalted currency. Local currency for local citizens and all that. But it's probably the gold standard against which all other currencies are measured, much as the US Dollar was in the mid to late twentieth century.
My two cents.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/03 22:01:00
Subject: Imperial currency
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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The currency is life
taken from the "Life is the Emperor's currency, Spend it well" Quote
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/03 22:19:37
Subject: Imperial currency
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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"Throne Gelt", or just "thrones", are the most commonly used imperial currencies, based off of the non-Astartes novels and the lore from FFG's books.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/04 05:26:42
Subject: Imperial currency
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Confessor Of Sins
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Pilgrims traveling to important shrine worlds often traverse sectors so they'd need some way to pay their way. Ofc, maybe the Ecclesiarchy handles that - gift your worldy wealth to the church at home and you receive some sort of IOU papers that allow you to handle things on the journey.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/04 18:35:29
Subject: Imperial currency
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Pilgrims are people on a sacred devotion. Once they've paid the passage on the ship, they generally rely on the faith and charity of other Imperial citizens to feed them on their way.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/04 19:08:33
Subject: Imperial currency
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Consigned to the Grim Darkness
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However, the fact that there's tourism within the Imperium (mentioned numerous times by the Cain series, for example, as well as the FFG series) shows the need for a stable currency.
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/04 19:23:25
Subject: Re:Imperial currency
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Only really within a specific sector.
Each will have its own currency. If you have the neighboring sector's currency I am sure there are exchange stations in every space port.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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