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A question arise last game session. I played Necrons and my opponent played Eldar. One Spiritseer with some Wraithblades charged my unit with Overlord and some Warriors. The Eldars won the battle and when it was time to roll for moral check I rolled 11. Eldars did Sweeping advance and cut down everything. All Warriors was gone, but what happens to my Overlord. In the 5th Necron Codex he was Ever-living that mean:

"If the model had joined a unit when it was removed as a casualty, and the roll was passed, it must be returned to play, with a single Wound, in coherency with that unit as explained in Reanimation Protocols. If the model had not joined a unit when it was removed as casuality, it must be returned to play, with a single Wound, within 3" of the counter. In either case, the model must be placed at least 1" away from enemy models, If the model is placed in coherencywith one or more friendly units that it it eligible to join, it automatically joins one of those units (your choice). If the model was locked in close combat when it died, and the combat is ongoing then it must immediately pile in. If the returning model cannot be placed, for whatever reason, it is lost and does not return. It the roll was failed, remove the counter from play."

In 7th edition the Overlod has lost "Ever-living" and has only "Reanimation protocols". If I read my 7th edition codex right it seems that the old "Ever-living"-rule still applies, so my Overlord should rise up again, but nothing is written about how many wounds he has or if he must pile in combat.

An other question arise, the Warriors has also "Reanimation protocols", the whole unit was destroyed by the Sweeping advance, but the new rules says nothing about not allowed to reanimate when all models are dead.
   
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Does the Overlord have the EL rule?

If it does then he can come back.

otherwise no.

Im pretty sure EL is no longer a thing in the newnewcron book but im not sure.

Reanimation protocol is different now.

You take it like a FNP instead of at the end of the phase.

Also this seems like a YMDC instead of a proposed rules.

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 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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Confessor Of Sins




WA, USA

No idea how you decided that he still has Ever-Living. He doesn't.

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Made in se
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Overlord does not have EL anymore, but it seems that the new RP does the same thing. This is the closest new rule I can find for my situation.

"RP rolls may even be taken against hits with the Instant Death special rule, but cannot be used against hits from Destroyer weapons or any special rule or attack that states that the model is 'removed from play'.

Still not sure how to do in my situation.

Sorry, but I don't understand the short "FNP", can you explain more?

Yes you are 100% right about the YMDC, put it by mistake here, sorry. Don't know how to move it to right forum.
   
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The old RP is dead

The new Reanimation protocol is a save taken immediately after a failed save instead of a number of dead models you can save at the end of the phase.

In your case

In close combat: your warriors take a wound. you fail your 4+, you fail your 5+++ RP save, End of combat resolution happens, he sweeps you. thats it. you dont get a second RP because the sweep isnt an attack.


 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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Leutnant





Louisville, KY, USA

The Ever-living rule has changed significantly. Overlord does not have it, but the new version is available in a Decurion Detachment.
   
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Missionary On A Mission



Eastern VA

Yeah, the Overlord is still toast in that case. He gets to use Reanimation Protocols like a supercharged Feel No Pain to try to ignore wounds taken in combat, but once he gets swept, that's it. That's the Necron Achilles' Heel right now, to the extent that they have one: actually kill enough in melee and you delete entire units, counterbalanced by the fact that getting into melee is a challenge and actually killing enough is fairly difficult.

Remember that new Reanimation Protocols doesn't resurrect dead models - it keeps them from dying in the first place.

Edit: clarity.

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Thanx a lot everybody for your answeres, now it's more clear for me.
   
 
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