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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/09 11:34:11
Subject: Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
The grim darkness of far Fenland
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Looking in Dictionary.com, Primarch does't exist, so presumably GW made it up. Exarch and Autarch do exist in Dictionary.com (a patriarch's deputy and an absolute ruler/tyrant respectively).
Dictionary.com says Exarch is pronounced [ek-sahrk], and autarch is [aw-tahrk].
I've always pronounced them as 'arch' rather than 'ahrk'. If we follow the 'proper' pronunciation (and the same is true for patriarch as well - [pey-tree-ahrk]), Primarch should be pronounced [pri-mahrk].
So the point I'm laboriously getting to is the comparison of the Emperor's sons to the cheap high street clothes shop, Primark. It seems an unfortunate comparison!
(Not sure if Primark have spread their wings beyond the UK, so for all our Dakka buddies outside of the UK, Primark is a fairly/very cheap and increasingly ubiquitous high street clothes shop in the UK, with a mixed reputation between awesomely inexpensive  , and cheap and  ).
Interested to know how other people pronounce Primarch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/09 11:51:48
Subject: Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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I always pronounced it [pri-mahrk] like exarch and autarch, and, yes, Primark ^^
But here in France, Primark is pronounced in English, and primarch in French, so you can't be confused.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/09 11:51:57
Subject: Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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'ahrk'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/09 11:52:46
Subject: Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Prime-Ark Automatically Appended Next Post: Every time I see that shop, I always imagine Fulgrim running the company.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/09 12:00:39
Subject: Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Whittlesey40k wrote:Looking in Dictionary.com, Primarch does't exist, so presumably GW made it up. Exarch and Autarch do exist in Dictionary.com (a patriarch's deputy and an absolute ruler/tyrant respectively).
It's just a number-word/prefex.
Tetrachs was the rule of four Emperors during the Roman "tetrarchy"; a historical phase of co-rulership. With Tetra- being the ancient greek prefix denoting the number four. I believe they made it into the Necron book too.
Substituting the greek tetra (or four) for the latin prim (or one), you get a sole ruler (of a legion, presumably). Sticking with the Greek, they would've been Henarchs though. And accounting for their original number of 20, they probably should've been Vigesimarchs (in latin, with English plural), or down to 18, Octodecarchs (in latin, with English plural).
Of course, Alpharius & Omegon wouldn't even be Primarchs of their own legion. They'd be Biarchs, Diarchs, or Duoarchs, or something.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/09 12:33:31
Subject: Re:Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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Pry-Mark.
Just like the clothing line, apparently.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/09 12:50:42
Subject: Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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Regular Dakkanaut
United Kingdom
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Arch is a standard suffix which comes from Greek, it means a ruler of some type, e.g. oligarch, monarch, etc. In all cases it is pronounced, for want of a simpler way to put it - ARK.
Primarch = Primark - same sound
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/09 12:51:35
Subject: Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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I like to think it means "First Ruler {Of a legion of Marines}"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/09 13:00:39
Subject: Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Just like the cheapo chav shop  And yes I have shopped there.
Prime-Ark.... Where Noah got the Penguins to walk to the middle east to hop on board the worlds 1st cruise liner.
Allegedly...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/09 13:04:30
Subject: Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Grumzimus wrote:Just like the cheapo chav shop  And yes I have shopped there.
Prime-Ark.... Where Noah got the Penguins to walk to the middle east to hop on board the worlds 1st cruise liner.
Allegedly...
Ah yes, I distinctly remember there being some pacified Genestealers in there, ready to populate Andromeda.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/09 13:28:29
Subject: Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Same way as Monarch, "Ark"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/09 13:57:33
Subject: Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Primark, like the shop, from me too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/09 16:37:42
Subject: Re:Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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^ This here for me, too. Pry-Mark.
Fortunately, I seem to be ignorant of the clothing store. No, thank you, I do not seek to resolve that.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/09 16:39:04
Subject: Re:Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
What's left of Cadia
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I think it's supposed to be something like pry-mark
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Space Marine flyers are shaped for the greatest possible air resistance so that the air may never defeat the SPACE MARINES!
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/09 16:46:40
Subject: Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Pry-mark
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/09 16:59:14
Subject: Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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Fixture of Dakka
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The same way as Primary. Prye - mary Prye - mark Don't know anyone that says Preh - Mark (or Preh - Mary). Or uh.... Prye - March! (gee, how to get an i with a straight line over it for forums!)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/09 17:52:03
Subject: Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Selym wrote:I like to think it means "First Ruler {Of a legion of Marines}"
I think that's what they were aiming for but it's a horrible Latin-Greek fusion of the words primus (Latin first) and Archos (Greek ruler). Better Greek would be something like archearch (original ruler) or protarch (similar meaning).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/09 17:56:41
Subject: Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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Ancient Venerable Dark Angels Dreadnought
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Same as you pronounce anything else with the -arch suffix, Pry-mark, Ot-ark, X-ark, etc.
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“There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance.” |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/09 19:09:09
Subject: Re:Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
England
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This, of course.
Reading the shop: I went there once, it was awful.
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Don't believe me? It's all in the numbers.
Number 1: That's terror.
Number 2: That's terror.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/09 20:35:55
Subject: Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Prime-arc
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/10 10:13:30
Subject: Re:Primarch - How do you pronounce it?
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Nurgle Veteran Marine with the Flu
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Primark (the shop) has more than its fair share of Grimdark.
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