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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/10 05:03:25
	     Subject: Bikes with 2+ armor? | 
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						|   Wicked Canoptek Wraith
 
 
 
 
	
	
	
 
 
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									So is there any way for any kind of bikes 2+ armor?
I haven't seen anything in the SM, BA, GK, or DA codexes.
 Are there any terminator bikes? Or bikes that deep strike?
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   - 10000+ pts Imperial Knights- 5 Standard Knights / 3 Cerastus Knights
 Officio Assassinorum - 4 Assassins
 CSM - 500pts? Maybe? Its from the Officio Assassinorum box so I'm pretty sure its not enough to run in a CAD
 Vampire Lords- I have no idea I bought it like two days before I left country and they're still in storage so I'll have to see when I get back.]
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/10 05:38:39
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						|   Regular Dakkanaut
 
 
 
 
	
	
	
 
 
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									Only HQ got access to 2+. And SW but as calvary.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/10 08:19:59
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						|   Emboldened Warlock
 
 
 
 
	
	
	
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									Eldar warlock conclaves on bikes can have a 2+ save. They have a 3+ as standard and have a 50% chance (if they have at least 7 members) of rolling the protect spell to increase that by 1. Also a warlock in an ordinary bike squad has a 1/6 chance of getting the same spell.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/10 09:32:50
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						|   Longtime Dakkanaut
 
 
 
 
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									If you count cover saves then DA (and Ork Warbikers/DE Reavers) can have 2+ saves, otherwise you're limited to the aforementioned posts.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/10 09:47:35
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						|   Dakka Veteran
 
 
 
 
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									Daemonheart from Crimson Slaughter will give your bike Lord/Sorc a 2+
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/10 12:00:28
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						|   Been Around the Block
 
 
 
	
	
	
 
 
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									If a psyker generates sanctuary, they could cast it on a SM bike command squad equipped with storm shields to buff their invul to 2+.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/10 14:20:20
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						|   Revving Ravenwing Biker
 
 
 
 
	
	
	
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									I think certain SM HQs can have Artificer Armor and a Bike.
 Regarding your other questions, no Terminator Bikes and no Deep Striking ones but there are certain ones that can Outflank if I'm not mistaken.
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Number 1: That's terror.
 Number 2: That's terror.
 Dark Angels/Angels of Vengeance combo
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/10 16:35:41
	     Subject: Re:Bikes with 2+ armor? | 
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						|   Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
 
 
 
 
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									Legion Scimitar jetbikes have a 2+ save, but they're not available to 40K marines (but makes you wonder why Sammael isn't 2+, then).
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One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
 "You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/10 21:16:18
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						|   Longtime Dakkanaut
 
 
 
	
	
	
 
 
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									generally no without getting lucky on psychic powers.
 This is a good thing as bikes are powerful enough as is
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/10 23:24:35
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						|   Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
 
 
 
 
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									 Tannhauser42 wrote: Legion Scimitar jetbikes have a 2+ save, but they're not available to 40K  marines (but makes you wonder why Sammael isn't 2+, then).
  When did they change that?  I could swear the crusade army list has them pegged at 3+.
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  30k Death Guard  W:8 L:5: D:1 
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/11 03:25:13
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						|   Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
 
 
 
 
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									They're a 2+ in LACAL, at least.  I would have to dig out my other HH books to see what their original printing might have been.
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 "Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
 "You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/11 05:00:18
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						|   Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
 
 
 
 
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									 Tannhauser42 wrote: They're a 2+ in LACAL, at least.  I would have to dig out my other HH  books to see what their original printing might have been.
  Original printing had them at 3+, they bumped them up to 2+ in the Red Books and Legiones Astartes Crusade list book.
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  Elysian Drop Troops,  Dark Angels, 30K Mercenaries, Retribution
 Ten Thunders, Neverborn
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/11 07:59:04
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						|   Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
 
 
 
 
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									Well, I'll be.  You're right.  Just got home and cracked open the LACAL and they are indeed 2+.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/12 13:06:23
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						|   Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
 
 
 
 
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									Wazzdakka used to have a 2+ armor save. Out side of that. Space marine captain/chapter master in Artificer armor and bike. 
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The Iron Waagh: 10,000+ 8th Edition Tournament Record: 4-7-1
 Salamanders: 5,000 8th Edition Tournament Record: 4-2
 Ultramarines: 4,000
 Armored Battle Company (DKoK): 4000
 Elysians: 500
 Khorne Daemons: 2500
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/12 14:01:30
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						|   Regular Dakkanaut
 
 
 
	
	
	
 
 
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									 Glitcha wrote: Wazzdakka used to have a 2+ armor save. Out side of that. Space marine captain/chapter master in Artificer armor and bike. 
  Wazdakka in 5th at least had a 4+ armor save.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/12 14:04:26
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						|   The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
 
 
 
 
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									Back in 3rd edition, attack bikes had a 2+ save.  The terminators of the FA world.
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/12 14:08:21
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						|   Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
 
 
 
 
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									Zodfrey wrote: Glitcha wrote: Wazzdakka used to have a 2+ armor save. Out side of that. Space marine captain/chapter master in Artificer armor and bike. 
  Wazdakka in 5th at least had a 4+ armor save.
  Yes, but when wazzdakka came out he was mega armor warboss riding a bike with a battle kannon. He had a 2+ save and every time he fired the battle kannon it shoved his bike back.
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The Iron Waagh: 10,000+ 8th Edition Tournament Record: 4-7-1
 Salamanders: 5,000 8th Edition Tournament Record: 4-2
 Ultramarines: 4,000
 Armored Battle Company (DKoK): 4000
 Elysians: 500
 Khorne Daemons: 2500
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/12 14:15:19
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						|   Regular Dakkanaut
 
 
 
	
	
	
 
 
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									 Glitcha wrote: Zodfrey wrote: Glitcha wrote: Wazzdakka used to have a 2+ armor save. Out side of that. Space marine captain/chapter master in Artificer armor and bike. 
  Wazdakka in 5th at least had a 4+ armor save.
  Yes, but when wazzdakka came out he was mega armor warboss riding a bike with a battle kannon. He had a 2+ save and every time he fired the battle kannon it shoved his bike back.
  Ahh, I see. Sounds like one of those old, "funny" units before Warhammer became much more serious.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/14 12:13:15
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						|   [DCM]
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									Centurions on skateboards?
 Otherwise, artificer armour and a bike is the only way I can remember how this can happen.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/14 12:20:39
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						|   Longtime Dakkanaut
 
 
 
 
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									There is the Armor Indomitus relic... Pricey but you've got the 2+ and it can go to 2++ for one turn. Nice on a Librarian with Precognition.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/14 12:48:51
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						|   Decrepit Dakkanaut
 
 
 
 
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									 Mantorok wrote: So is there any way for any kind of bikes 2+ armor?
  I haven't seen anything in the SM , BA , GK , or DA  codexes.
  Are there any terminator bikes? Or bikes that deep strike?
  A techmarine on a bike will give you a 2+ armor save.  Not a bad way to run one.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/14 13:18:57
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						|   Revving Ravenwing Biker
 
 
 
 
	
	
	
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 I see Inquisitor Tony Hawk's Deathwatch detachment is coming along nicely!
 
  Didn't think about the relic or the Biker Techmarine though, good catch there!
 
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 Don't believe me? It's all in the numbers.
Number 1: That's terror.
 Number 2: That's terror.
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/14 18:33:49
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						|   Pious Palatine
 
 
 
 
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									 Zuul wrote: Well, I'll be.  You're right.  Just got home and cracked open the LACAL and they are indeed 2+.
  Man that's insane...clearly I need to pick up the red books.
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2015/10/14 19:44:34
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									 Glitcha wrote: Zodfrey wrote: Glitcha wrote: Wazzdakka used to have a 2+ armor save. Out side of that. Space marine captain/chapter master in Artificer armor and bike. 
  Wazdakka in 5th at least had a 4+ armor save.
  Yes, but when wazzdakka came out he was mega armor warboss riding a bike with a battle kannon. He had a 2+ save and every time he fired the battle kannon it shoved his bike back.
  In the previous Ork codex it stated why Warbosses couldn't have both mega armor and a bike:
 
  "They'd probably fall off a lot"
 
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