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I am designing a SM list in a rather restrictive environment: No allies, invis is out, max 5 D-weapons, no superheavies, 1 in 4 jetbikes can be upgraded, max 2 FMC. Besides that there is a long list of AS to each codex, which isn't interesting for now. We play with the Maelstrom scenarios in the rulebook.

For SM it goes that gravturions are out, bikes can't mount grav guns and I can either go with drop pods and bikes OR I can choose 1-2 TFC. Ouch. Since I haven't got the right bike models anyway I am gonna do the unthinkable and play without bikes and pods. I'm gonna be dirty and just bring LotD tho. You are wanted to come with constructive criticism so I can set up that painting queue.


SPACE MARINES v1.1
CAD, Ultra Marine chapter tactics

HQ
Tigurius. 165
Divination. Joins devastator centurions.

TROOPS
10 Tacticals, melta, combi-melta. 160
Rhino, dozer blade. 40

10 Tacticals, melta, combi-melta. 160
Rhino, dozer blade. 40

ELITE
Dreadnought w. lascannon. 115

5 Legion of the Damned, melta gun, combi-melta, multi melta. 155

5 Legion of the Damned, plasmagun, combi-grav, heavy plasma gun. 165

HEAVY SUPPORT
2 TFC, 2 techmarines. 200

2 Stalkers. 150

3 Devastator centurions, 3 TL lascannons, 3 TL missile launchers. 270

Total 1620



Do you spot anything in the list that could be changed to make it stronger and/or more well rounded?



SPACE MARINES v1.0
CAD, Ultra Marine chapter tactics

HQ
Tigurius. 165
Divination. Joins devastator centurions.

TROOPS
10 Tacticals, melta, combi-melta. 160
Rhino, dozer blade. 40

10 Tacticals, melta, combi-melta. 160
Rhino, dozer blade. 40

ELITE
Dreadnought w. lascannon. 115

5 Legion of the Damned, grav gun, heavy grav gun. 175

5 Legion of the Damned, grav gun, heavy grav gun. 175

HEAVY SUPPORT
2 TFC, 2 techmarines. 200

2 Stalkers. 150

3 Devastator centurions, 3 TL lascannons, 3 TL missile launchers. 270

Total 1650


NB: AS is an abbreviation for Army Selection.


Changelog:
10-12-15: Changed equipment on LotD squads.

I can't see any Sisters in the army list. Or does AS stand for something other than Adepta Sororitas nowadays?

AS=Army Selection. I'll spell it out just for you mate

Help me Dakkaites, you are my only hope.

Legion of the damned cannot take grav cannons or grav guns, only the combi grav on the sergeant. They are good for dropping in, meltaing something, then laughing at enemies who think that plasma will work. Then dying to bolters.

Dread lascannons are poop, you can get three Lascannons for 15 more points on a predator, or four for 35 more on a Devastator squad.

You are right about LotD, thanks for notifying me. I missed the ^1. My ploy with them were to have a nasty all-unit that in particular could counter armour saves and cover, and AV to some point. Now I am not so sure of what to do. I could run with plasma or melta. Or I could go with something else entirely...?

Reason for las dread is to have something against being overrun by a melee force such as flesh hounds. And getting a lascannon for 15 points into the bargain.

If I ditch the LotD it will free up 350 points to be used for more useful stuff. Which could be a dread and some scouts

I would give the centurions grav cannons and a drop pod.

I would too, but alas the restrictions disallow grav cannons on centurions. If I choose drop pods I can't take thunder fire cannons, though I can still take whirlwinds for the ignore cover barrage. If I want to field centurions in drop pod it with be with a far lighter armament, such as TL meltaguns, or TL lascannons and TL missile launchers. If I want to field grav weapons it has to be on foot sluggers (and "No more than 2 grav amps on devastators" according to restrictions). That is far less interesting than the usual grav armament.