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2015/10/25 06:34:39
Subject: Car goes into crowd, killing four and injuring forty four
Have family in Stillwater, but luckily none of them were at the parade yesterday. None of my friends from that neck of the woods were hurt either, so that's good. I do know some of the responders and they will be pretty shook up for a while I'm sure.
Still waiting on a lot of details to come out of course. There are a lot of rumors floating around, but nothing official yet other than the DUI. I'm not even sure if it will end up being alcohol just based on the driving and the look on her face.
The state did a good job in coming together yesterday, and it was a very nice gesture to see the big football rivals during their moment of silence today:
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2015/10/25 10:09:47
Subject: Suspected drunk driver kills four and injures forty four
I've seen people estimating 25 years, translating to 10 years and parole around.
Who knows really though at this point. Senseless and tragic event.
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2015/10/25 12:33:13
Subject: Suspected drunk driver kills four and injures forty four
senseless tragedy. You make an informed decision when you do not have a prior plan to drinking, for transportation purposes. Life sentence would be fair.
Also should probably get a federal investigation into how many drunk driver deaths happen each year and look into banning vehicles that go fast, because its the cars fault for sure. bigger engines mean they go faster, so lets ban all V8s, V6s, and Inline 4 souped up engines, so as to prevent high speed killings with cars.
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2015/10/25 15:06:42
Subject: Suspected drunk driver kills four and injures forty four
MrDwhitey wrote: I've seen people estimating 25 years, translating to 10 years and parole around.
Who knows really though at this point. Senseless and tragic event.
That would be a travesty.
She should never see outside a cell again.
Honestly? I think she needs a severe as hell sentence if it's true that she was under the influence.
There is pretty much never a good enough "reason" to drive drunk.
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2015/10/25 23:47:07
Subject: Re:Suspected drunk driver kills four and injures forty four
And to keep with the discussion of Murder/Manslaughter in another thread here is the law for Oklahoma:
1.When perpetrated by an act imminently dangerous to another person and evincing a depraved mind, regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual
2015/10/25 23:54:06
Subject: Re:Suspected drunk driver kills four and injures forty four
I second that. If not, she should be forced to have pictures of the deceased in her cell at all times so she can never forget, especially since one of them was only 2 years old.
My thoughts and prayers are with all the victims and their families.
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2015/10/26 00:04:47
Subject: Suspected drunk driver kills four and injures forty four
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2015/10/26 01:17:00
Subject: Re:Suspected drunk driver kills four and injures forty four
This means that you are making not paying attention while driving a capital offense. That is the actual act.
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2015/10/26 01:49:36
Subject: Suspected drunk driver kills four and injures forty four
It is now very likely that the Oklahoma lady was not intoxicated at the time of the crash, so I don't know if you want to keep these two in the same thread.
2015/10/26 03:08:56
Subject: Suspected drunk driver kills four and injures forty four
It is now very likely that the Oklahoma lady was not intoxicated at the time of the crash, so I don't know if you want to keep these two in the same thread.
I'll wait and see what happens with the bloodwork and then change it up. Looks like you called it right on the charges if it comes back she was impaired:
Because they got hit by a car that drove into the crowd? At least that would be my guess. But alcohol seems to be unrelated to the Oklahoma case now.
I'm guessing Relapse is combining the two because of the alcohol factor, it is something that he feels very strongly about and rightfully so, but I just wasn't sure if he wanted to keep the two cases combined since one of them appears to be heading towards a psychological issue instead of a alcohol issue.
It is now very likely that the Oklahoma lady was not intoxicated at the time of the crash, so I don't know if you want to keep these two in the same thread.
I'll wait and see what happens with the bloodwork and then change it up. Looks like you called it right on the charges if it comes back she was impaired:
If I had nothing else to go by except that look on her face when she was arrested and on the mug shot I would definitely expect her to be impaired, she really didn't look like she was all there behind those eyes. The question will just be "how and why". Alcohol should have been easy to exclude during the arrest, and it is interesting that the arresting officers basically just said "probably cause for DUI" and didn't mention anything in particular. I wonder if they will release the arrest report sometime soon and if the officers smelled anything. I would imagine that if she was sauced enough for this then there should be a definite alcohol odor.
But even without that we could still have drugs or a psychiatric breakdown, in addition to a few physical problems that could cause delirium.
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2015/10/26 03:51:57
Subject: Suspected drunk driver kills four and injures forty four
This means that you are making not paying attention while driving a capital offense. That is the actual act.
Incorrect. My judgement lies in the act of killing 4 people and injuring 44 more. If it were a gun, it would be a mass shooting and people would be having a conniption fit.
Good to hear that if someone had a mini-stroke and blacked out for a second, you'd still press for the death penalty anyway, because you care only about outcomes and not intent.
At some point, the moderators are going to realize your schtick of going into threads and saying outrageous gak to provoke responses is de facto trolling. Until then - godspeed!
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