Car goes into crowd, killing four and injuring forty four

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It'd be interesting to know what her driving record was before this incident and if she was nailed in the past for DUI:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/24/us/oklahoma-car-into-crowd/index.html

Edited title to reflect that it appears the accident happened due to something other than drugs or alcohol.

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Confirmed drunk driver just put a bunch in the hospital:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/25/delaware-police-drunken-driver-hits-7-at-homecoming-event/?intcmp=hpbt1

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d-usa wrote:
Relapse wrote:
Confirmed drunk driver just put a bunch in the hospital:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/25/delaware-police-drunken-driver-hits-7-at-homecoming-event/?intcmp=hpbt1

It is now very likely that the Oklahoma lady was not intoxicated at the time of the crash, so I don't know if you want to keep these two in the same thread.

I'll wait and see what happens with the bloodwork and then change it up. Looks like you called it right on the charges if it comes back she was impaired:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/10/25/woman-accused-causing-deadly-osu-homecoming-parade-wreck-not-alcoholic-father/

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A psychiatric breakdown would certainly put this in a different light, making her an object of pity instead of the focus of a lynch mob.

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The thing that I was wondering at the first, but I haven't seen answered yet, is if she had a prior record of charges. If this is the case, then impaired driving is likely the cause, otherwise, it could be a number of factors that were not her fault.

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LethalShade wrote:
Peter Wiggin wrote:
LethalShade wrote:
Peter Wiggin wrote:
Orlanth wrote:
Peter Wiggin wrote:
Death penalty please.

Prove it was deliberate then maybe.

I don't care about intention, only outcomes.

Yay, let's execute a bunch of people without even trying to understand why they did what they did !

Sigh.

Let me repeat, I do NOT care about "why." I care about outcomes.

If you plow your car into a crowd, kill 4 people & then send another 44 to the hospital your ass needs to be removed from society permanently. I view life-long incarceration as torture and inhumane, ergo I believe in a more aggressive application of the death penalty.

Like I said, if this were a drunk person with a gun instead of a drunk person with a car...

And what about diabetic people ? Epileptic people ? My... Uh... *forgot the english word* godfather (?) once lost consciousness for two whole minutes while driving, and woke up in the middle of a field.

Holy crap, I'll bet he was scared as hell. What happened after he woke up?

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d-usa wrote:
More info on the mental health suspicion:

http://kfor.com/2015/10/26/i-didnt-know-where-else-to-turn-father-talks-about-osu-homecoming-crash-suspects-past/

“There was just some things that she said in the past and some, just recently, she had a mental hospital she went to in Wagoner at one time. They had her for a couple of weeks and they released her and there’s really nothing else they could do for her. So I took her to another place when she got out of there and basically the same thing. She was feeling fine and, you know, at the point she was 21, so I’d done all I could do as a father. I didn’t know where else to turn and what to do,” he said.

I wonder if this a case where she didn't take medication.

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I agree with Perigrine on this one. If someone has a condition that makes them a danger on the road, and it can't or isn't being controlled, that person should not be driving. Any accidents they cause should be criminally prosecuted.

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d-usa wrote:
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I agree with Perigrine on this one. If someone has a condition that makes them a danger on the road, and it can't or isn't being controlled, that person should not be driving. Any accidents they cause should be criminally prosecuted.

It's a nice sendiment, but than we run into the reality that the US is a car culture with crap transportation options for people who don't have cars and you are pretty much condemning people to poverty.

I doubt that communities will ever be willing to make the investment required to fix that problem on either front: fix our healthcare system where conditions are more easily mitigated or fix communities so that not having a car doesn't become an instant economic hardship.

Not an easy fix situation, I agree.

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Some of the medical requirements for getting a driver's liscence:

http://dmv.dc.gov/service/medical-requirements

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Kanluwen wrote:
LordofHats wrote:
Depends on severity of potential mental illness and culpability if any for neglecting treatment (if we even do that, I don't know XD)

Severity of mental illness would affect her ability to be found competent enough for trial, not necessarily will it affect sentencing. Neglecting treatment is something that isn't really considered either.

Definitely the courts should give the woman treatment. Sticking her away in prison without any might as well be a death sentence, so she shouldn't go there if she is found lacking mental faculties.