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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 11:32:52
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin tactica : Dual-Powerfist Helbrute vs Maulerfiend.
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Hello people ! I was wondering what was in your opinion the best option between a Dual-Powerfist Helbrute and a Maulerfiend, and more importantly, why. Obvious advantages of the DPF Helbrute is his low cost and point and money and his superior WS, and for the maulerfiend it's the magma cutter and its speed. Beside that, how to decide ?
Thanks for your opinion.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 13:32:58
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin tactica : Dual-Powerfist Helbrute vs Maulerfiend.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Um. Ok so I would pick the maulerfiend every time.
Yes the brute has the better ws and initiative, but it is so much slower. Remember the maulerfiend is also fleet and ignores difficult terrain.
The mauler also has an invulnerable, so is more durable.
It's easily worth the extra points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 14:42:49
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin tactica : Dual-Powerfist Helbrute vs Maulerfiend.
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
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Here are what each have going for it:
Helbrute:
Higher BS by 1
Higher Ini by 1
Cheaper initial cost
Can have multi melta/auto cannon/ lascannons
Maulerfiend:
Move through cover
12 inch movement speed (vs Helbrute 6")
5+ invul by being a Daemon of Khorne
Magma cutter load out grants more attacks
Lash tendrils reduce enemy model attacks when in contact
Has It Will Not Die
Fleet
If you are looking for a fast Assault unit then there really isn't a choice, the Maulerfiend gives you a lot more potent package for a few more points than a Helbrute.
If you are looking for a multi role unit with some decent shooting and can hold it's own in CC, or if you a strapped for points, then the Helbrute would be an ok option.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 17:29:19
Subject: Re:Khorne Daemonkin tactica : Dual-Powerfist Helbrute vs Maulerfiend.
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Maulerfiend is better unless you also need some ranged firepower. I only use a Helbrute because I don't have any Maulerfiends. On the other hand, a Helbrute with two power fists can take a heavy flamer in each one...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 18:51:59
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin tactica : Dual-Powerfist Helbrute vs Maulerfiend.
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Dakka Veteran
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Helbrutes are a lot smaller so they fit more easily into tight spaces.. Something to consider!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 18:54:22
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin tactica : Dual-Powerfist Helbrute vs Maulerfiend.
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
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Maulerfiend is better by a mile. In addition to the reasons already stated, it also doesn't have to roll on a stupid and unpredictable table like the Helbrute
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 20:40:47
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin tactica : Dual-Powerfist Helbrute vs Maulerfiend.
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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KhorneontheCobb wrote:Maulerfiend is better by a mile. In addition to the reasons already stated, it also doesn't have to roll on a stupid and unpredictable table like the Helbrute
Super true, that chart kills hellbrutes for me. Fiend is super good also.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 22:23:50
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin tactica : Dual-Powerfist Helbrute vs Maulerfiend.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Helbrutes also have no attacks basically if you give them a range weapon, unlike the Loyalist option.
On top of that, to make up for a lack of attacks, Maulerfiends cam either lower the attacks of the opponent or score additional Melta equivalent hits on the opponent. Coupled with the naturally higher mobility, and I'm not sure why someone would ever take a Helbrutes.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/29 08:35:13
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin tactica : Dual-Powerfist Helbrute vs Maulerfiend.
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Battleship Captain
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They're pretty nice in the dataslate formations in 'normal' chaos marine armies - but those aren't available to daemonkin.
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Termagants expended for the Hive Mind: ~2835
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/29 11:29:44
Subject: Khorne Daemonkin tactica : Dual-Powerfist Helbrute vs Maulerfiend.
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:Helbrutes also have no attacks basically if you give them a range weapon, unlike the Loyalist option.
On top of that, to make up for a lack of attacks, Maulerfiends cam either lower the attacks of the opponent or score additional Melta equivalent hits on the opponent. Coupled with the naturally higher mobility, and I'm not sure why someone would ever take a Helbrutes.
Because their heavy support slots are full with the only shooting worth a damn in the entire army and they can't take another CAD?
I honestly can't concieve why anyone would even consider for a second taking a 'Brute over a 'Fiend (rules-wise).
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Peregrine wrote:What, you don't like rolling dice to see how many dice you roll? Why are you such an anti-dice bigot? |
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