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Curious who the best unique character for each of these roles...

Best melee character

Best shooting character

Best support character

Melee character: I think Abbadon handily wins this one. There's been a previous thread about this about which the best 1 v 1 SC is for melee and Abbadon tops it. Smashfether is his only real competition but given that he's not unique he doesn't count. Jain Zar is a strong contender for 1 v 1 duels, though Abbadon wins out for melee in general.

Shooting character: Probably Cypher. Loads of high BS shots and with infiltrate he can get in range as well. Being able to wound on 2's with AP2 and weight of fire allow him to beat the more sniper centric characters like Illic Nightspear.


Support character: Easily either Tigurius given his psychic abilities or Draigo for him being able to tank attacks with his storm shield and insta-access to Gate of Infinity. Probably Tigurius though given his ability to hand out more buffs and reliability.

Best melee: Anggrath. We all know why

Best in shooting: The earth caste riptide from the Farsight enclaves. Whats not to love about an IC Riptide

Best support: Belakor, Tigurius or Loth

Best shooting character: Maximillian Weisemann. Riptides are nothing compared to a character Baneblade.

 Peregrine wrote:
Best shooting character: Maximillian Weisemann. Riptides are nothing compared to a character Baneblade.

Damn it... I thought I had the good one... too bad there isnt a named character Warlord Titan

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
Best shooting character: Maximillian Weisemann. Riptides are nothing compared to a character Baneblade.

Damn it... I thought I had the good one... too bad there isnt a named character Warlord Titan

If I ever got one, it'd be called Gerald.

Gerald the Warlord Titan. Special ability: Dying in an impressive fireball tot he latest 500 points of Tau/Eldar cheese.

He may not be the "best" support character, but the Ministorum Priest is absurdly good for what you pay for his points, especially if you do stuff like put him in a unit with a Prescience Pysker for 4++ rerollable or abuse allies to do things like 3++ rerollable with Crusaders or anything else with storm shields.

Best for support is EASILY Nemesor. Switching Warlord traits on the fly and being insanely durable (2+/4++/4+++) makes for a great character for the price. There's tons of great Psykers, but that requires further investment into getting Warp Charges. Nemesor needs no such thing.

Shooting is a bit tough. Maugan, Lias, and Cypher are pretty good contenders for that spot.

Melee I won't entirely delve into, but I'd wager Draigo. A S9 AP2 Force Weapon isn't exactly fair against most targets,

 Lukash_ wrote:
He may not be the "best" support character, but the Ministorum Priest is absurdly good for what you pay for his points, especially if you do stuff like put him in a unit with a Prescience Pysker for 4++ rerollable or abuse allies to do things like 3++ rerollable with Crusaders or anything else with storm shields.

Uriah Jacobus is certainly top tier though (this is only for named characters I believe).

For 90 points, a 4++, War Hymns, giving his whole squad a 5++, War Hymns, Fearless, War Hymns, Hatred, and did I forget? War Hymns. At Ld10.

Oh, and he's a hobo with a S4AP4 shotgun for lulz.

 Furyou Miko wrote:

 Lukash_ wrote:
He may not be the "best" support character, but the Ministorum Priest is absurdly good for what you pay for his points, especially if you do stuff like put him in a unit with a Prescience Pysker for 4++ rerollable or abuse allies to do things like 3++ rerollable with Crusaders or anything else with storm shields.

Uriah Jacobus is certainly top tier though (this is only for named characters I believe).

For 90 points, a 4++, War Hymns, giving his whole squad a 5++, War Hymns, Fearless, War Hymns, Hatred, and did I forget? War Hymns. At Ld10.

Oh, and he's a hobo with a S4AP4 shotgun for lulz.

hobo with a shotgun isnt as OP as the family house cat, he clearly is the best support character

Best melee character- Marbo

Best shooting character- Marbo

Best support character- Marbo

 God In Action wrote:
Best melee character- Marbo

Best shooting character- Marbo

Best support character- Marbo

Best Marbo - Character

Best melee: Horus, followed by Lorgar Transfigured, followed by Fulgrim
Best shooting: Mechanicum ArchMagos Prime with Ordinator or Myrmidax upgrades
Best support: Lorgar Transfigured, with Belakor, Tigurius, and Loth running close second

Of course, when you spend 250+ points for a character, they better be good at what they do.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Best melee: Horus, followed by Lorgar Transfigured, followed by Fulgrim
Best shooting: Mechanicum ArchMagos Prime with Ordinator or Myrmidax upgrades
Best support: Lorgar Transfigured, with Belakor, Tigurius, and Loth running close second

Of course, when you spend 250+ points for a character, they better be good at what they do.

Ima stop you right there, Abaddon statistically beats Horus in melee.

Best melee? Smashfether.
Best shooting? Tau Empire XV85 Commander.
Best Support? Guilliman.


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 Selym wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Best melee: Horus, followed by Lorgar Transfigured, followed by Fulgrim
Best shooting: Mechanicum ArchMagos Prime with Ordinator or Myrmidax upgrades
Best support: Lorgar Transfigured, with Belakor, Tigurius, and Loth running close second

Of course, when you spend 250+ points for a character, they better be good at what they do.

Ima stop you right there, Abaddon statistically beats Horus in melee.

Not sure if you know what Horus does.

HE LOWERS YOUR WEAPON SKILL FOR EACH HIT HE GETS. After 2 rounds, chances are you'll be at WS0 and cant do anything! If Horus wins mathematically against EVERY Primarch what hope in hell does Abaddon have?

Can't remember which thread it was, but on mathammer, Abby still won. It was very close, admittedly.

rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:
Best melee? Smashfether.
Best shooting? Tau Empire XV85 Commander.
Best Support? Guilliman.


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 Selym wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Best melee: Horus, followed by Lorgar Transfigured, followed by Fulgrim
Best shooting: Mechanicum ArchMagos Prime with Ordinator or Myrmidax upgrades
Best support: Lorgar Transfigured, with Belakor, Tigurius, and Loth running close second

Of course, when you spend 250+ points for a character, they better be good at what they do.

Ima stop you right there, Abaddon statistically beats Horus in melee.

Not sure if you know what Horus does.

HE LOWERS YOUR WEAPON SKILL FOR EACH HIT HE GETS. After 2 rounds, chances are you'll be at WS0 and cant do anything! If Horus wins mathematically against EVERY Primarch what hope in hell does Abaddon have?

He lowers it when he deals a wound. Plus he'd die like a to Anggrath

 Selym wrote:
Can't remember which thread it was, but on mathammer, Abby still won. It was very close, admittedly.

Seeing as Horus costs 240 points more than Abaddon, it will not even be a contest. I do remember someone ran a mathhammer where Abby had every single boon on the Champion of Chaos Table. I think it was pretty close then.

Points do not correlate with capability. See: Wraithknights, Baneblades.

Melee Id say abbadon or Kharne since he kills his buddies
Shooting id like to say cypher but he dies too often for me
Support id say be'lakor since invis is a tough one to top hey

Abaddon beats Horus, if he gets all of the Chaos boons. The odds for that to happen is fairly low. (As in, completely impossible.)

Without them, Horus dispatches Abaddon quite handily.

Of course, to make the former fight fair, we should wait for Horus to also get his Chaos-amped form rules, and they will no doubt be pretty murdertastic.

Either way, my pick is

Melee: Horus
Shooting: O'vesa
Support: Lorgar Transfigured

 Ashiraya wrote:

Of course, to make the former fight fair, we should wait for Horus to also get his Chaos-amped form rules, and they will no doubt be pretty murdertastic.

I'm hoping for D strength melee attacks

My knee-jerk reaction is 'the game needs less D, not more' but then, if any character deserves it it's Horus.

 Ashiraya wrote:
My knee-jerk reaction is 'the game needs less D, not more' but then, if any character deserves it it's Horus.

The Emperor is the one that deserves the D. How else did you think he defeated Horus?

Emperor at one wound against full strength Horus.

Emperor makes his attack and rolls a 6.

Instantly removed! Heresy ends.

The Emperor using too much D is what started this whole mess... some people should need a licence to breed.

Melee-Sly Marbo (He has a poisoned knife and is loaded up on testosterone)

Shooting-Sly Marbo (He has a ripper pistol that minces all but the toughest creatures)

Support-Sly Marbo (He has Infiltrate and a demo charge and a special rule that effects the enemy commander)

Best shooting character - Probably Aetos'Rau'Keres. Have you seen what the Staff Of Cataclsym does?

Best melee character - Anngrath The Unbound has to be pretty close.

Best support character - Inquisitors and Priests are good, but the best unique support character? Mad Dok Grotsnik has to be pretty good - conferring fearless, feel no pain and rampage onto a unit. Be'Lakor is pretty harsh too, if only because of garuanteed access to telepathy powers of your choice.

Best support IMO is Nemesor Zandrekh.

Saying Emperor needs D attacks, so Cypher needs D attacks too?

How does that make sense?