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So the aquila's a two headed eagle and the sign of the one person in the whole of terra that was able to change a world, by unifying it's various waring factions, and set an entire species on a galactic crusade instead of tearing itself apart.

Tzeentch is a two headed God of change that, to my knowledge, only appears in bird form.

The aquila, now, represents a species or ideology that survives on a balance of truth and lies.

One of Tzeentch's heads tells the truth, whilst the other tells a lie.

Am I late to this party as I haven't noticed this being picked up elsewhere?

I'm interested if anyone here has heard of GW being asked this at any point in history, and separately, to have a little fun just theorising potential backstory scenarios that detail any link between the two, ie the Emperor in his earliest form made a deal with Tzeentch or whatever - go wild!

Didn't it have something to do with having one eye on the past, and another looking ahead to the future.

Illuminati confirmed

 kitch102 wrote:
Tzeentch is a two headed God of change that, to my knowledge, only appears in bird form.

You're confusing Tzeentch with the Lord of Change.

Daemons aren't a direct physical mirror of the Gods they serve.

Tzeentch is an indefinite mass of... Something. Basically it always changes.

 insaniak wrote:

 kitch102 wrote:
Tzeentch is a two headed God of change that, to my knowledge, only appears in bird form.

You're confusing Tzeentch with the Lord of Change.

Daemons aren't a direct physical mirror of the Gods they serve.

Fair enough, though it could also be said that the Aquila isn't a direct physical mirror of the Emperor, though that doesn't mean that the iconography itself isn't associated with him in the same way that a Lord of Change doesn't mirror Tzeentch, though does represent him / her. Either way the icon of a two headed bird recurs to both parties, I wondered at a possible connection between the two.

Not sure I've explained that very well - very busy day at work with too many distractions...

I think it an interesting possibility that Tzeentch - allegedly being the God that convinced Khorne & Nurgle to invade our universe / galaxy / whatever - had a pact with the Emperor before he became the Emperor.

Imagine that the Emperor had made a pact to do deeds in Tzeentch's name, in exchange for becoming the most powerful Psyker in the galaxy. Empy then goes back on his promise, resulting in the ensuing Daemonic incursions.

Thinking further on it, wouldn't Tzeentch be that kind of bastard to say "right, feth you, I'm going after your Son", sparking off the Horus Heresy. Imagine then, that Chaos Space Marines are the "good side" of sorts, we already have numerous instances in the fluff etc, in which Chaos Marines, Cultists, Daemons chant about the lies of mankind, the falsehood of the Corpse Emperor. I wonder what that falsehood could potentially be, and if it could span further back, or be more than, simply "the primarchs were grown in tubes pal".

You're confusing Tzeentch with Fateweaver, who, ironically, fits thebprofile of the Imperial Aquila perfectly. He's a two headed bird, one head only seeing the future, one only the past, exactly like the Aquila. Ironically further, both are by extension blind to the present.

Tzeentch himself actually looks more like a Blue Horror than anything else, in his rarely described 'true form'.

The Aquila only has one eye, the one that looks to the past. The other head is eyeless, "blind to the future".

The emperor's symbol was the eagle (and the thunderbolt).

The two-headed aquila came from the treaty with the mechanicum - when the Terran Unity and the Mechanicum joined up to create the imperium. Hence - theoretically the two heads.

Well, the Emperor didn't get his power from Tzeentch, as we know he was the reincarnation of all the shamans in one body. But he did bargain with chaos for the knowledge to make the primarchs, so he would have had dealings with Tzeentch.

*cough*