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How do the knights shields interact with attacks that always hit side armor? A barrage always hits side armor when it hits a vehicle, if it lands on a knight and the knight has his ion shield on the left side does he get his invuln or can the opponent declare it is hitting the right side armor if it is unclear what side the center is on. What about abilities that just say they hit side armor automatically can the opponent declare they hit the un-shielded side?

There was a big 'ol discussion on this when it came out. The HIWPI interpretation that I agree with that came out of it is that the Knight gets the shield save against the attack if it's in the correct 'normal' arc (i.e. the Basilisk is in it's front arc, the Knight gets the save if his shield is angled on the front, but the penetration roll is still against the side armour value).

I'll see if I can dig up the thread and provide a link.

Here's two I've found:
Barrage
Vector Strike.

RAW is not clear on this but I would say you determine where the barrage weapon lands to figure out if its hitting the left or right side armor. If it lands dead center then just roll a die to see which side it lands on.

 Quanar wrote:
There was a big 'ol discussion on this when it came out. The HIWPI interpretation that I agree with that came out of it is that the Knight gets the shield save against the attack if it's in the correct 'normal' arc (i.e. the Basilisk is in it's front arc, the Knight gets the save if his shield is angled on the front, but the penetration roll is still against the side armour value).

I'll see if I can dig up the thread and provide a link.

Here's two I've found:
Barrage
Vector Strike.

Thanks those were very helpful

 TheAvengingKnee wrote:

 Quanar wrote:
There was a big 'ol discussion on this when it came out. The HIWPI interpretation that I agree with that came out of it is that the Knight gets the shield save against the attack if it's in the correct 'normal' arc (i.e. the Basilisk is in it's front arc, the Knight gets the save if his shield is angled on the front, but the penetration roll is still against the side armour value).

I'll see if I can dig up the thread and provide a link.

Here's two I've found:
Barrage
Vector Strike.

Thanks those were very helpful

But keep in mind barrage is different than "always hits side armor". For example: Tau Optimized Stealth Cadre formation buff is always hitting rear armor of vehicles. In that case, you do not get the inv. save on a knight unless you put the shield on the back.

With the tau one you'll never get the invuln since the rear armor is a optional after you have chosen a facing.

 TheAvengingKnee wrote:
With the tau one you'll never get the invuln since the rear armor is a optional after you have chosen a facing.

Well sort of optional. If you activate the "wall of mirrors" ability then you always hit rear armor. To hit the front you cannot activate the ability. But theres already a thread on this

*facings* are covered by the sheild,

barrage always comes from the center of the hole of the blast, that is how you determine cover/ion sheild.

regardless of the facing hit, you resolve on side armour value, which has nothing to do with the ion sheild.

since the player can place the barrage on the facing not covered by the shield, you will never get its save against a smart player by RAW