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Awesome Autarch






Las Vegas, NV

We’ve got a great game coming your way Tuesday night! Frankie’s new Tau list (which you can read about here) vs. Raw Dogger’s nasty White Scars Battle Company! Be sure to join us for the live show starting at 7pm PST on our Twitch channel. http://www.twitch.tv/frontlinegaming_tv



Here’s Jason’s list!

White Scars Battle Company Size Cost
HQ
Khan 1 125
Chaplain - Hunters Eye 1 110
CCS - 5x Melta Gun, Drop Pod 5 130

Troops
Tactical Squad - Combi-Grav, Grav Cannon, Rhino 5 115
Tactical Squad - Combi-Grav, Grav Cannon, Rhino 5 115
Tactical Squad - Combi-Grav, Grav Cannon, Rhino 5 115
Tactical Squad - Combi-Grav, Grav Cannon, Rhino 5 115
Tactical Squad - Combi-Melta, Melta Gun, Multi-Melta, Dpod 10 170
Tactical Squad - Combi-Melta, Melta Gun, Multi-Melta, Dpod 10 170
Fast Attack
Attack Bike - Multi Melta 1 50
Attack Bike - Multi Melta 1 50
Heavy Support
Devesators - 2x Grav Cannon, Rhino 5 140
Devesators - 2x Grav Cannon, Rhino 5 140

10th Company Task Force
Scouts 5 55
Scouts 5 55
Scouts - Sniper Rifles 5 60

Inquisition
Inquisitor - 3x Servo 1 34
Coteaz 1 100



And Frankie’s monstrosity!

CAD

HQ

Commander- Drone Commander, Suit

Troop

Firewarrior x5

Firewarrior x5

Fast Attack

Drone x8- Marker

Lord of War

Stormsurge x2- Early Warning, Twin-linked Burst Cannon, Shield

Riptide Wing

Riptide- Early Warning, Stim, Twin-linked Smart Missile

Riptide- Early Warning, Stim, Twin-linked Smart Missile

Riptide- Early Warning, Stim, Twin-linked Smart Missile

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This is going to be a brutal and bloody game! A lot of it will come down to first turn. Jason has the advantage there with Coteaz allowing him to reroll his seize roll, and he will additionally get a +1 due to Frankie having a LoW. With the raw firepower being thrown around here, he who shoots first will likely shoot last.

Which player are you putting your money on?!

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San Diego, CA

I can't wait to see the outcome! I'll admit, I think the odds are stacked against Frankie on this one... But whoever goes first will more than likely win!

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Canada

I ended up missing the end - I assume Frankie won primary, Jason won Secondary? Who ended up winning!? :O

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San Jose, CA

It was a draw.


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I am not that impressed with the neo Tau .

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I'm still kind of amused that Frankie scoffed at my question about Stormsurges wanting to sit back... then lost them in hand2hand when he pushed them up. xD <3.

I think his list had too many eggs in one basket kind of thing imo.
   
Made in us
Awesome Autarch






Las Vegas, NV

Both players made 1, huge mistake during the course of the game that cost them victory, and it ended up a draw! Tau won Kill Points by a mile and got First Blood. Battle Company won maelstrom by a mile and had Line Breaker. Tau would have won on 5 and most likely 7, but it ended on 6.

Well played! It was a really fun game.

   
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter




Merchantville NJ

I am new to this Ed haven't played in for ever. Is Jason's list considered the Gladius strike force?

8+ trade Looking to do more !!

TJ
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San Jose, CA

 SpacePup1987 wrote:
I am new to this Ed haven't played in for ever. Is Jason's list considered the Gladius strike force?

Yes it is. It is basically 2 Demi-companies combined to form a Battle Company.



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Merchantville NJ

So the vehicles he has taken are completely free besides upgrades? I just really like the list and was looking for insight on it!

8+ trade Looking to do more !!

TJ
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San Diego, CA

 SpacePup1987 wrote:
So the vehicles he has taken are completely free besides upgrades? I just really like the list and was looking for insight on it!


As per the Gladius Strike Force in the Space Marine Codex, if you take two Battle Companies and any Auxiliary, all Rhinos, Drop Pods, and Razorbacks taken as Dedicated Transports are free, barring upgrades.

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DirtyDeeds wrote:
 SpacePup1987 wrote:
So the vehicles he has taken are completely free besides upgrades? I just really like the list and was looking for insight on it!


As per the Gladius Strike Force in the Space Marine Codex, if you take two Battle Companies and any Auxiliary, all Rhinos, Drop Pods, and Razorbacks taken as Dedicated Transports are free, barring upgrades.


Yup. So basically, here is a free 500 extra points for your army

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Merchantville NJ

Is the 10th company considered Auxiliary?

8+ trade Looking to do more !!

TJ
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San Diego, CA

 SpacePup1987 wrote:
Is the 10th company considered Auxiliary?


Any formation listed on page 113 of the Space Marine Codex is an Auxiliary formation that can be used to fulfill that requirement for the Gladius Strike Force. So yes, the 10th Company formation is an Auxiliary formation and it just so happens to be the most commonly used.

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Thank You for all the help! You guys Rock!

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Awesome Autarch






Las Vegas, NV

We had a great game on Twitch this past Tuesday! Here are the player’s post game thoughts:



Phat J’s thoughts:

Before playing the game against Frankie I was well versed on the amount of devastating firepower his list could put out. With 3 Riptides that could fire each of their weapons twice at different targets at an increased ballistic skill and two Stormsurges able to target 8 units per turn and fire twice if they anchored themselves I knew full well that even with the obscene amount of objective secured units my Battle Company provided Frankie had the ability to eliminate all of them in only a handful of turns. I knew that if the game were anything other than Kill Points primary, I had a really good shot of winning the game however knowing my luck I was prepared for the worst. My instincts rang true and the dreaded mission 3 was rolled so my 25+ kill point list prepared itself as well as it could to take on Frankie and his 9 kill points.

My initial strategy was to try and get the first turn so I could put as much damage onto his army as possible. Frankie won the roll to go first and elected to do so. I still had a really good chance of seizing the initiative with Coteaz allowing me to re-roll my seize and Frankie’s Stormsurges giving me the ability to seize on a 5+ instead of the normal 6+. With that in mind I deployed everything on the table , which would let me hit him with everything I had and even if I failed to seize the initiative he wouldn’t be able to focus all of his considerable firepower on just a handful of units which would increase my ability to survive the top of the turn. After deploying and using my Scout move, I found out that even with the Scout move with my Rhinos, I would still be out of range with all of my Grav turn one due to the Vanguard deployment. Things just weren’t looking good for ol’ Jason. I then proceeded to fail my seize attempts and funny enough then rolled two 5’s for my Maelstrom.

In a game like this the only option I had was to play to the secondary and the tertiary, as the primary was lost before the game began. The Battle Company is incredibly powerful but by taking it to a tournament you have to be prepared to play at least one game where Kill Points are the primary mission so it’s important to focus on the missions and not be overwhelmed by your many easy to kill units exploding before you. Predictably I lost a LOT of units in the first two turns, but with a little persistence, a lot of Grav, some accurate deep striking behind Frankie’s line of sight, and a ton of luck, I was able to hang in there and the game ended on turn 6 with a draw.

My takeaway from the game is that Tau firepower is absolutely devastating, especially with the new formations in the Kauyon and Mont’ka books. In the hands of an experienced general they will absolutely table opponents in a couple turns. Be prepared to see variations of Frankie’s list at tournaments throughout the next year.



The World’s Greatest’s Thoughts:

Last nights game was a great one. I was a little worried before it started due to how much Grav Jason was bringing. Once we rolled kill points I felt like a weight had been lifted off my shoulders since Battle Company has so many kill points.

Once we started I made a few mistakes which would end up hurting me in the long run. I should have stayed out of Grav range on turn one but got excited. I also should have planted my heels so I could shoot twice on turn two. Oh well Jason made a few mistakes himself like out flanking his scouts and leaving some vehicles in the open.
It was a super close game all the way to end due to the mistakes made on both sides. Im sure those mistakes will not happen again in the future. Jasons list is really strong and after playing it I am confident in saying that a White Scars Battle Company counters my list pretty hard. Hopefully we will get a rematch in again soon as its always a blast playing Jason.

   
 
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