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Which version of the bloodthirster would you say is the best choice? I basically have a small armya t this point just now getting into the game. Two boxes of bloodletters a box of bloodcrushers and part of an old csm battleforce

I sold mine (sold the whole army) but I like the daemon prince better.

I had the d axe and he died 90% of the time before he got to swing it. if you have to have one I say go for the axe whip.

But I will never own another unless deep strike or flight rules change.Maybe someone else will give you more positive advise

Hope you enjoy him and good luck

Yeah I bought one of the gw black Friday deals. Was trying to get a good core for an army and reallyk new nothing about them except the csm I already had and that's only a few things lol. Kind of a bummer that he isn't that great. Well if anything I guess he can be used for free with bloodtithe when I get a daemon Prince

Like I said man you may have better luck than me. And someone might come along and say that theirs is the best thing in there list. But all mine did was get shot up. If you deep strike you have to get shot at two turns before you can charge.If you change flight modes to charge you have to stand still a turn and get shot. Best thing I found is start him on the ground/table behind a bunch of fast attack (like hounds) and hope they can suck up the wounds.

But he can only kill one unit a turn if he gets there then he stands in the open and gets shot again.

Sorry to be such a neg. Nancy they not all bad ( i guess) I'm just salty at him. I really do Hope he works out for you. Good luck have fun!

Unfortunatly you're right, BT's are not the best FMC.

Other notable FMC that gave them a reputation where LoC and Flyrants, because they have synergies and Psy powers, things that BT's doesn't have.

BT's are "old school" MC's, and the passing of time din't benefit them well.

I got one of the old models at a really good price, Ill be using him with Be'lakor extensively to buff him with invis or shrouding making him slightly more survivable because he does have a massive target on him especially rolling with the D axe, people often leave the rest of the army alone turn 1 so everyone else is free to land some hits and try soften them up and if he gets in he is going to cause problems

For 250 points basic, really should have 6 wounds or a 4++, but I can dream..

the D axe looks awesome, but is pretty underwhelming. If youre lucky he can off a knight (knight hitting on 5s...) but other than that he is a 275 point distraction carnifex.

Basic axe and whip is actually not bad. ID on a 6, with a decent number of attacks and high(est) WS is OK, trouble is not S8 so needs those 6s against marines that arent EW or on bikes, and cant really hurt vehicles.

The Basic Bloodthirster or the Bloodthirster of Insensate Rage are generally best. The expensive one gets an extra attack, more firepower, adamantium will, and Hatred (Characters) but suffers from three problems:

a) He's more expensive than the cheapest one and doesn't do a tactically different job (unlike Insensate Rage, who's a serious tank- and super-heavy killer)
b) Were you really having trouble killing characters with a WS10 I9 A5 bloodthirster?*
c) If you jink, your improved firepower doesn't help you.
d) Adamantium will only really matters on powers targeting you - most really nasty powers are blessings on your opponent (force, invisibility, prescience, etc)

Always remember you can still Jink when gliding. Move up the board as jump infantry and jink whenever shot at - you should still reach the enemy turn 2, maybe turn 3 if they try to avoid you. The Bloodthirster is and will always be a distraction but it's one hell of a distraction!


*If you were, the character in question probably has Eternal Warrior and a 3+ invulnerable save, and the improvements help with neither of these

I use mine as the reward for the Blood Tithe table. Always wanted to have a BT, for like 10 years but even then the old model seemed to be completely outdated.

So once it got a new shiny awesome model I bought one. Magnetized the base to play him in 40k and in WFHB, but then WHFB died and now he only sees the table as a reward for the KDK or in Apocalypse games where there are so many targets that he stands a chance of getting into combat.

Out of the 3 I built a Axe/whip one, no biggie at my store if I want to play it as the Str D one, as long as I said so before the game starts.

It can be better in a daemon army due to its ability to get daemonic gifts and have Belakor giving him invisibility. Without daemons I would ally CSM for Belakor with a min. cultist tax.
Without Belakor shenanigans it's really sub-par. Even with Belakor, he leaves a lot to be desired.

Invisibility it with Belakor. Glide forwards. Wait a turn. Glide toward the biggest nasty unit you can and delete it. He's one of the best answers to any superheavy or tank squadron in the game, and does well against death stars when invisible. In a daemons list he can get 2 survivability rewards for 40 points that help immensely.

If he gets into more than one combat, he's probably going to rampage through many points of your opponent's models. Invisibility and greater rewards will make that possible.

Speaking of rampage, If you get a reward you don't need, just swap it for a blade of blood and gain d3 attacks when he is outnumbered. Makes a huge difference in clearing out multiple models with multiple wounds in a unit.

I tried one with no buff support and it died hard. Then I realized it needs to be buffed to survive but when it survives its damage output is insane. I think they're a viable unit, it just takes finesse to get your points out of him.

Yah you have to take him from CD for the gifts and rewards. Dthirster is the only way to roll.

The base Bloodthirster is generally considered the best for Price and what you get for it. The D-Thirster suffers from the GW logic of Chaos cannot have nice things without a draw back, the draw back being that it may never swing that mighty D weapon at initiative, unlike their Loyalist counterparts with their fancy Knights or WKs from Eldar.

Honestly, the D-Thirster should have been a FGMC and been 50 points more but allowed to strike at Initiative. Its trash and worthless without dedicated support via Invisibility, and at that point you need to bring Be'Lakor, which is another 350 points down the hole anyways. At that point you might as well stop playing because you're still going to get stomped at the same time you swing so its totally worthless.